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crazycoffey 12-31-2006 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru
Welcome to the board. If you can't take mild ribbing for intentionally stirring the pot -- for being a n00b who instantly criticizes the board and tries to tell lifelong Chiefs fans what kind of fans they should be -- then you should drink heavily tonight and then drive your car into a tree, killing yourself instantly in a very gruesome and gory way that gets posted on r-o-t-t-e-n.com.


Oh OK, take your own advice than, dick weed You ribbed, I ribbed back, eat a shit sandwich and die from choking on the vomit.

siberian khatru 12-31-2006 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey
Oh OK, take your own advice than, dick weed You ribbed, I ribbed back, eat a shit sandwich and die from choking on the vomit.

Now, THAT'S more like the Planet! :thumb:

See, we'll get you acclimated in no time. :)

FringeNC 12-31-2006 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
Your last sentence is definitely at least debatable. He just doesn't seem to have a grasp on things during the game. Even my wife, who knows nothing about football, occassionally says during the game "why does the Chiefs coach always look so confused?"

That being said, your first sentence is crap. The process by which Herm led that team to 4-12 was pretty simple:

Step 1: Starting QB injured
Step 2: 2nd-string QB injured
Step 3: 3rd-string QB injured
and so on.

You're right. It was a cheap shot on Herm. I don't really hate Herm until he opens his mouth and starts sputtering crap. He's done some decent stuff this year -- I think he is good at creating a decent atmosphere in the locker room. I think Herm could be successful if he was surrounded by a very good GM, and very good coordinators...but he doesn't have that here...He just doesn't know enough Xs and Os to do himself.

crazycoffey 12-31-2006 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru
Now, THAT'S more like the Planet! :thumb:

See, we'll get you acclimated in no time. :)

haha lol

Ok, kick off

htismaqe 12-31-2006 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TN_Chief
Oh is it? You'd have to be a moron to not be cognizant of the NFL's hissy fit whenever a team hires a coach without the search process including an African-American candidate or two. What has that led to? Romeo Crennel has been a mess in Cleveland. Herm has a career losing record (over 6 seasons) as a head coach. Art Shell...don't even get me started. In my opinion, and I'm entitled to it provided I'm not offensive about expressing it, these guys are still around as HCs because they fit the league's desire to appear PC. I'm not suggesting that there aren't excellent African-American head coaches. Dennis Green, though a mess in Arizona, was great in Minnesota (and despite the trainwreck in the desert still has an impressive coaching record). Tony Dungy has been an outstanding coach for two teams. But IMO, some coaches have been guaranteed virtual immortality due to their skin color (because the league desperately wants to appear progressive).

ROFL

Are you suggesting that Crennel wasn't a qualified head coaching candidate? Or Art Shell? How does Steve Mariucci get coaching jobs, or Dom Capers, or Jim Fassel?

The NFL is a good old boys network and it applies equally to EVERYBODY, regardless of skin color. But yes, you are a racist.

TN_Chief 01-01-2007 06:42 AM

Whatever you say pal. You just keep right on ignoring reality. Are Mooch, Capers or Fassel coaching in the NFL right now? No. Why? They all got fired for doing a lousy job.

What I'm "suggesting" is that due to the NFL's wish to appear PC, their skin color made them "more qualified" than other candidates...and that it buy's them a margin of error that other coaches don't have.

htismaqe 01-01-2007 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TN_Chief
Whatever you say pal. You just keep right on ignoring reality. Are Mooch, Capers or Fassel coaching in the NFL right now? No. Why? They all got fired for doing a lousy job.

What I'm "suggesting" is that due to the NFL's wish to appear PC, their skin color made them "more qualified" than other candidates...and that it buy's them a margin of error that other coaches don't have.

And I could continue to post of example after example where white coaches were given ample opportunity to fail and CONTINUE to get jobs.

You're full of shit, racist.

SLQ 01-01-2007 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC
Garcia is so much better than Huard it's not even funny.

If Garcia was much better than Huard he might be sitting pretty. He is not. Garcia is a mediocre QB, that is why he isn't in SF any longer.

Head to head I think we would all see that Huard is a better technical QB as well as a more accurate passer. Who ever gets him for next year had better use him before he gets much older.

TN_Chief 01-01-2007 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
And I could continue to post of example after example where white coaches were given ample opportunity to fail and CONTINUE to get jobs.

You're full of shit, racist.

Great. I've given 3 examples in the last decade. Where are yours?

And you know something...I love people like you. People who are so quick to drop the "racist" label. It shows me your level of intelligence. That you don't have the IQ to consider the argument being made in total...you're so overwhelmed with the matter of skin color that you miss everything else. I gave you 2 examples of guys I consider to be excellent coaches that are also African-American (Denny Green and Tony Dungy). Had we pilfered either of them from their respective teams last year I'd have been happy. And had they turned in a final record (9-7 plus backing into the playoffs as Herm has done) I'd have been more than happy to give them the benefit of the doubt. Why? Because they have a solid history of success...which Herm doesn't. Both of those guys have earned an extra measure of respect and margin for error...Herm, Art Shell, Romeo Crennell have not.

htismaqe 01-01-2007 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TN_Chief
Great. I've given 3 examples in the last decade. Where are yours?

And you know something...I love people like you. People who are so quick to drop the "racist" label. It shows me your level of intelligence. That you don't have the IQ to consider the argument being made in total...you're so overwhelmed with the matter of skin color that you miss everything else. I gave you 2 examples of guys I consider to be excellent coaches that are also African-American (Denny Green and Tony Dungy). Had we pilfered either of them from their respective teams last year I'd have been happy. And had they turned in a final record (9-7 plus backing into the playoffs as Herm has done) I'd have been more than happy to give them the benefit of the doubt. Why? Because they have a solid history of success...which Herm doesn't. Both of those guys have earned an extra measure of respect and margin for error...Herm, Art Shell, Romeo Crennell have not.

I love it when people throw out the IQ smack. What your IQ on the SBv5?

The NFL recycles coaches, whether their head coaches or assistants. Sam Wyche, Bum Phillips, Tom Coughlin, and the list goes on. Why is Marty still a head coach? Because he's black? His track record is remarkably similar to Herm's, only he's been coaching 5 times as long.

Tony Dungy...ROFL. He got handed the league's best offense on a silver platter and he's done what with it? NOTHING. ROFL

And keep throwing Romeo Crennel in there too. It makes your argument even funnier. The guy has been a head coach for 2 years, IN CLEVELAND. Bill Belichik failed there too, he must suck. There's absolutely ZERO argument the Crennel was the most qualified coordinator in the NFL at the time he got the Cleveland job.

TN_Chief 01-01-2007 10:13 AM

The last time I was tested was in '91, my second year of college. It wasn't the SB, it was the WAIS and my score was 141.


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