Right now I'd be happy with "Decent" "Competitive" or even "On The Rise". I could do without "SB Champs" for several years if the other names applied.

I'm struggling with the fact that we can't seem to learn from past mistakes. Build a championship D, when that doesn't work, scratch the D and build a championship O, when that doesn't work, scratch it and try to build another D.


This may be unpopular right now, but a lot of this IMO is Lamar's doing. I used to think he didn't care or he didn't want to spend the $ but in the last month or so, I've come to the realization that the problem may have been that Lamar cared enough about the staff and players that he didn't want to hurt them. I think he also didn't need to win to love the game. So, he didn't always make some of the moves necesary to put a winner on the field.

Good post Mike ... It is difficult for me to watch them because in the 90's most of the time they won ... now, most of the time they lose and I get all nervous.

Fax, you are correct, sir, concerning the D. We did improve but we didn't improve enough for the D to carry the team the way Marty's team's did.

I'm disappointed because Herm had a golden opportunity ... do what Dungy did ... leave the O in the hands of the experts ... Mike S. could have run the O the way that Al S. did last year if Herm had stayed out of the way. If he had then we would have had enough of a balanced team to have gone deep into the playoffs.

No, I don't buy the argument that we lost T. Rich, Big Willie, etc. ... last year we lost Roaf for several games and the offense continued to score. It was Herm's offensive principle ... don't score too fast, help the D out .... yadda, yadda, yadda ....

The best way to help your defense (with improved talent and better schemes like this year) is to score points ... get the other team in a big hole and make them play catch up. Imagine what we could have done with the 2 CB's and young DB we had this year if they had a lead to work with.

I'm afraid it will be another (not sure who said this but I agree) 5 year plan that is doomed to fail before it starts. Herm doesn't know offense and is too dumb to admit it.

Mike ... you are correct about it being Lamar's fault. Back in the 60's it was reported that he had a burning desire to be equal to the NFL and to win a championship. He put his money where his mouth
was ... we won a S.B.

Then he noticed the money it was costing ... hired Jack Steadman as president or turned things over to him ... we have been struggling ever since. Yep, Kingless is making the Hunt's money but we have not been close to winning a S.B.

Ummm...Cleveland.