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vincent 01-25-2007 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SPchief
Times are changing. Most 14-15 year old girls are either having sex, or giving BJ's

Oh my, MOST I missed that part the first time around...It's been less than ten yrs since I was that age...wasn't MOST back then... more like A FEW to SOME.

WOW :eek:

vincent 01-25-2007 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho
Why won't anyone answer this question, "What punishment would you suggest for a 17 year old who hosts, participates in and videotapes and orgy with a 15 year old?"

WOW tough one...I think he deserves some jail time, maybe some probation, definately fines and community service...that is... if it's not rape, but someone under the age of consent, right?

el borracho 01-25-2007 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by vincent
WOW tough one...I think he deserves some jail time, maybe some probation, definately fines and community service...that is... if it's not rape, but someone under the age of consent, right?

Do you think he should be labeled a "sex offender"?

vincent 01-25-2007 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho
Do you think he should be labeled a "sex offender"?

I still don't know about the whole Sex Offender list...I am for it in the aspect that, I want to know if one moves in next door. But the Constitutional implications of it are "iffy" to me...

I believe in the ability for a person to change, and I also believe that people who are subject to having to serve time, and have to be "punished" after their sentances are up.

vincent 01-25-2007 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho
Do you think he should be labeled a "sex offender"?

As the law stands right now, though, I would have to say "Yes".

KChiefer 01-25-2007 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho
Do you think he should be labeled a "sex offender"?

IMO No. Just because it's such a blanket label. PPL will see that and assume he was raping kids. He was only 2 years older. Granted the orgy part is messed up, but he was basically a kid too.

I don't think he should have just gone free, but it's fair to say he's paid his debt and doesn't need to be deemed a pedophile the rest of his life.

KChiefer 01-25-2007 04:04 AM

I just see no reason why a community that he moves to will need to know this happened. He's not a predator.

vincent 01-25-2007 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer
No. Just because it's such a blanket label. PPL will see that and assume he was raping kids. He was only 2 years older. Granted the orgy part is messed up, but he was basically a kid too.

I don't think he should have just gone free, but it's fair to say he's paid his debt and doesn't need to be deemed a pedophile the rest of his life.

Very good point...you've just made my position of "on the fence" more comfortable...

KChiefer 01-25-2007 04:10 AM

Also, I didn't read the whole article...Did they say what the other boy got? Was he a "minor" and therefore free to go?

This is so dumb that the court was unable show any discretion at all.

vincent 01-25-2007 04:11 AM

I have a few problems with certain parts of the article:

In Douglas County, according to law professors following about the case, admitting sins and begging forgiveness -- not insisting on your innocence -- is the road to mercy.

Does that seem to violate the 5th ammendment to anyone else?

And If Mark Cuban is so outraged, why is the kid's lawyer doing this Pro Bono? C'mon Cuban fork over a couple bucks to help this kid get out...

vincent 01-25-2007 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer
Also, I didn't read the whole article...Did they say what the other boy got? Was he a "minor" and therefore free to go?

This is so dumb that the court was unable show any discretion at all.

all the others went to prison as well.... the only other definate sentence stated in the article was about another football player, who got 5 yrs in prison with the possiblity of parole.

Smed1065 01-25-2007 04:45 AM

But he is out after 2 years IIRC...Because he followed the system of the system and took the ride they gave him.

chagrin 01-25-2007 06:26 AM

This is aweful, is there a petition online or something? I hope this kid gets released and soon!

Braincase 01-25-2007 06:52 AM

About time for a governor to step in and rectify the situation with a pen.

Bob Dole 01-25-2007 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Braincase
About time for a governor to step in and rectify the situation with a pen.

That's what Bob Dole was thinking as he read the story. A governor can commute a death sentence but he can't make this bullshit right?


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