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Tribal Warfare 02-06-2007 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf
I suggest we ask Peter King to respond to this...

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/16630797.htm



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...0/bears/1.html


fire away

DJJasonp 02-06-2007 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990
Well said JoPo...well said.....like someone mentioned earlier, it makes me sick that these media turds like Dr Z and Peter King hold so much clout when it comes to the HoF. Unreal....

As i said yesterday, i dont think they are intentionally biased, but they are biased due to the fact they just never saw DT play enough outside of the "big games"


I also do beleive Irvin definately deserves to be there. He was a key part of that team and always made big plays and 1st downs when it mattered most. Just like DT, if you cant see that Irvin is deserving, your just clueless.....

I'm not so sure I agree with all of this...

First off, Troy Aikman, a great offensive line, and Emmit Smith made Michael Irvin better (not the other way around).

DT made:

Neil Smith a pro-bowler
Dale Carter a pro-bowler
James Hasty a pro-bowler

etc etc.

The point I'm making is that DT made everyone else around him better....the same cannot be said for Irvin....if Michael Irvin's numbers were amassed entirely as a member of the Arizona Cardinals....Irvin doesnt work for ESPN....and Irvin doesnt make the HOF.

Deberg_1990 02-06-2007 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp
The point I'm making is that DT made everyone else around him better....the same cannot be said for Irvin....if Michael Irvin's numbers were amassed entirely as a member of the Arizona Cardinals....Irvin doesnt work for ESPN....and Irvin doesnt make the HOF.

You could debate "what ifs" for weeks on end.......

Sometimes i think people do too much of this to be honest..

Irvin, DT's and Monks stats speak for themselves. The voters are either over-analyzing or they really are clueless or misinformed.

Ebolapox 02-06-2007 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58
You mean like Roger Wehrli?

:rolleyes:

and it took him HOW LONG to get into the HOF?

OnTheWarpath15 02-06-2007 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1
and it took him HOW LONG to get into the HOF?


But he's in. According to some, DT never will because he didn't play in a SB or in a "big" market.

Halfcan 02-06-2007 10:51 PM

Dr Z is a worthless old c#cksmoker-someone should put that old dog out of our misery.

Ebolapox 02-06-2007 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58
But he's in. According to some, DT never will because he didn't play in a SB or in a "big" market.

oh, I agree with you... I still think that, given an off year and probably 30 years in the future, guys like TD and priest will make it (if the veteran's committee is still alive and kicking)... the travesty with DT's possible enshrinement is he should have been a first or second ballot guy, not an also-ran who hardly nobody remembers (roger wierhli) that took forever to get into the hall

ChiefFan31 02-07-2007 02:01 AM

That is a good article by JoPo.

And I too am not so sure how I feel about a group of sportswriters voting, and more importantly, controlling who is elected into the Hall and who is not.

It should be a combo. DT needs to get in soon...

Direckshun 02-07-2007 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp
I'm not so sure I agree with all of this...

First off, Troy Aikman, a great offensive line, and Emmit Smith made Michael Irvin better (not the other way around).

DT made:

Neil Smith a pro-bowler
Dale Carter a pro-bowler
James Hasty a pro-bowler

etc etc.

The point I'm making is that DT made everyone else around him better....the same cannot be said for Irvin....if Michael Irvin's numbers were amassed entirely as a member of the Arizona Cardinals....Irvin doesnt work for ESPN....and Irvin doesnt make the HOF.


Direckshun 02-07-2007 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan
Dr Z is a worthless old c#cksmoker-someone should put that old dog out of our misery.



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