And that is nothing more than a matter of opinion...for all we know he could be a great player. There were people that thought Carson Palmer wouldn't be any good because he was to reserved and not a real leader.

Just give that up, that shit's ****in stupid this team sucks, they aren't making the playoffs if you want a realistic best case scenario say 17.

What does Brohm have to do on the field to prove it. . . he has the brain, the leadership skills, the arm, and especially the accuracy

The lowest pick we're gonna get is 25. I'm telling you.

I want some of what you're smokin

Brohm's best trait is that he doesn't turn the ball over much. He's smart with the ball. He doesn't have Manning or Palmer's physical gifts, he just has their intelligence. He's not a terrible prospect, but he's definitely not an elite one and not a can't miss quarterback.

And yes, the defenses he faces week in and week out are very important. He plays in a weak conference and generally against a weak non-conference schedule. Manning and Palmer played in two very good conferences and were better even despite that.

And he crapped the bed in that Rutgers game last year.

NFL teams think QB is 5x more valuable than LT
 

This is something I posted a few months ago. It pertains here and I don't think many people saw it, so it is worth repeating.

I have calculated how the NFL values these positions based on draft order (see details below):


HB: 15.5%
FB: 0.3%
QB: 14.2%
WR: 4.8%
WR: 4.8%
TE: 5.4%
LT: 3.3%
LG: 1.1%
C: 1.7%
RG: 1.1%
RT: 3.3%
K: 0.4%
P: 0.1%
KR/PR (one guy): 0%*
FS: 6.9%
SS: 4.6%
LCB: 4.2%
RCB: 4.2%
SOLB: 3.7%
WOLB: 3.7%
MLB: 5.3%
LDE: 3.5%
RDE: 3.5%
DT: 2.2%
NT/DT: 2.2%

The first surprise is RB>QB this is a little misleading. RB burn up faster than QB so you have to draft them more often. The above numbers should be adjusted for average career length of a starter at the position.

The second surprise is Safties > CB. That just shocks me, but probably should not when you consider the number of teams using a cover 2 and how the rules have castrated CB play.

Thrid surprise is MLB/ILB > OLB. Sure the MLB is the most important spot in the 4-3, but a lot of your play makers and pass rushers come from the OLB spot.

Fourth surprise is TE > WR. I think TE are being over-valued in the NFL right now due to the TG and Gates effect.

Methology in next post.

It's the offense he plays in basically because it's spread so he puts up a ton of stats and such. Everyone ripped the shit out of Alex Smith for the same reason.

Some people think if you play in a spread offense you are automatically Tim Couch and will never be any good.

well, buddy I am too so get off your high horse n00b

Methodology (only for the geeks):

I compiled a list of the players drafted in the first three rounds over the last 3 years. I chose the first 3 rounds because teams are looking for eventual starters in those rounds. Latter rounds are for backups and special team players. I used the last 3 years to get enough data to even out draft-class variations, while being recent enough to capture current trends.

I then assigned a value to each player based on the NFL Draft value chart. This goes from 3000 points in the first round down to 116 points for the end of the 3rd round. I then totaled the number of draft value points for each position over the 3 year period. I then made some additional adjutments based on the fact that you field 1 QB but 2 guards, etc. I also made the following groupings:

MLB = MLB + ILB
DT = DT + NT

There was no way to separate Left/Right Tackle, Guard, DT, DE, OLB, or CB.

The numbers are a little skewed since the above positional alignments are based on standard proset offense and 4-3 defense. Many times an offense lines up with 2 RB or 2 TE or 3 WR instead of a FB. Also there are 3-4 defenses and nickle packages. These would slightly change the value assignments.

Those are intangibles. We're talking about talent. Brohm isn't Manning or Palmer in terms of talent.

Well I can safely say that you are a complete reerun, congratulations for achieving this.

How about we trade a 4th to the Buccaneer's for the rights to Plummer?

Ok Alex Smith, people will say the exact same shit about Brohm they said about him...

But does he have a hot southern wife?