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Logical 09-26-2007 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chieficus
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And I don't know how some of you all do it (and quite possibly I might not want to know what some of you all do with your time...) but I just don't have time for more than maybe a day's worth of discussion every now and then...

Priorities man, priorties.


...But, seriously, I have the type of job where I am either so busy I am consumed by it for days at a time, or so slow that I have lots of idle time.

Chieficus 09-26-2007 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom
Priorities man, priorties.


...But, seriously, I have the type of job where I am either so busy I am consumed by it for days at a time, or so slow that I have lots of idle time.

I understand...

Heck, I used to have a lot more time for this (and the board in general) back when I was in college... now I have a job in which I'm consumed by it just about everyday and even some "off days"...

But that's okay. I'm doing what I love... :)

Jenson71 09-26-2007 09:06 PM

I like them. I've started a few and have posted in many. I like the sharing of ideas, but I agree that it can get ugly. Some people, believers and non-, can be frustrating to deal with.

Frazod 09-26-2007 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom
do you enjoy religion as a topic in threads.

The reason I ask is one of the other long time poster has a canipition fit when religious topics are posted and I find that strange. Whether the topic is Buddhism, Muslim, Jewish, or Christian in tradition or even about atheism I enjoy the hell out of those threads. So I thought I would find out what others think.

No poll forthcoming.

You know, I'd be happy to post all those PMs we exchanged, you jackass. In fact, I'll do just that:

At 11:36 last night, Jim wrote:

Check with Jeff (morph), I PM'd him early on game day and asked him to lock the thread, for some reason he did not want to do so.

I know I am great at creating controversy and yes I enjoy it. But I offended some people I did not intend to and for that reason I wanted it locked.

Sorry Tim if you don't believe me but it is true.

Jim


To which I responded a minute later:

Whatever. Like you didn't know the reaction SUCK IT JESUS would get. I'm way past sick of you pulling this shit.

At 12:05 came this response:

Well evidently DEnise was right, you don't have the self control to avoid threads that bother you. You say you know what I am up to in all threads I create, yet you go on and post in them anyway. So is that my fault or yours?

At 12:41 I fired back with this:

I look at this way. You're being a dick, and I'm calling you on it. It's really that simple.

Eventually, this whole issue will reach critical mass, enough people will raise hell, and all this religious bullshit will get banished to DC where it belongs, which is exactly what I want. And every stupid thread you post like this brings my little dream one step closer to reality. So by all means, Jim, keep up the good work.

You stir your shit, and I'll stir mine.


At 1:15 Jim responded with this:

So who really is the religious bigot, the guy who starts threads that causes people to think over and discuss religious issues, or the guy who cannot stand to see religious topics in the main forum?

And this morning, I ended this little exchange with this:

You don't want people to think; you want people to be pissed off for your twisted amusement. Again, you seem to think I just signed up yesterday. Being annoyed by your continuing efforts to be the Madonna of ChiefsPlanet certainly does not make me a bigot. Perhaps you should find a dictionary and look up that word.

And quit sending me these lame ass PMs. I really have nothing further to say to you about this that I won't say in the public forum, nor do I really give a shit what you think about it.


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So, as you can all see, I am "having a canipition fit" about CONTENTIOUS religious threads specifically designed to PISS PEOPLE OFF and CREATE HATE AND DISCONTENT in the MAIN FORUM which portrays the entire BB in a bad light. I want this stuff moved to DC. I have publicly stated this many times. Nowhere did I ever state they shouldn't be posted at all. I have been clear and forthright in my desire to get contentious religious topics to DC for years. I get tired of them, and I get tired of Jim stirring shit just to do it. I have also made this abundantly clear for years. Jim has rather disengenously attempted to twist my motives publicly and privately. And now this fucking thread.

Well, now you can all see the truth.

Up your ass, Jim. Sincerely. 4321

GarySpFc 09-26-2007 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom
do you enjoy religion as a topic in threads.

How would you enjoy it if I insulted your mother the same way you did my Lord Jesus in the last thread?

Logical 09-26-2007 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GarySpFc
How would you enjoy it if I insulted your mother the same way you did my Lord Jesus in the last thread?

Fine she is dead too.

Logical 09-26-2007 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod
You know, I'd be happy to post all those PMs we exchanged, you jackass. In fact, I'll do just that:

At 11:36 last night, Jim wrote:

Check with Jeff (morph), I PM'd him early on game day and asked him to lock the thread, for some reason he did not want to do so.

I know I am great at creating controversy and yes I enjoy it. But I offended some people I did not intend to and for that reason I wanted it locked.

Sorry Tim if you don't believe me but it is true.

Jim


To which I responded a minute later:

Whatever. Like you didn't know the reaction SUCK IT JESUS would get. I'm way past sick of you pulling this shit.

At 12:05 came this response:

Well evidently DEnise was right, you don't have the self control to avoid threads that bother you. You say you know what I am up to in all threads I create, yet you go on and post in them anyway. So is that my fault or yours?

At 12:41 I fired back with this:

I look at this way. You're being a dick, and I'm calling you on it. It's really that simple.

Eventually, this whole issue will reach critical mass, enough people will raise hell, and all this religious bullshit will get banished to DC where it belongs, which is exactly what I want. And every stupid thread you post like this brings my little dream one step closer to reality. So by all means, Jim, keep up the good work.

You stir your shit, and I'll stir mine.


At 1:15 Jim responded with this:

So who really is the religious bigot, the guy who starts threads that causes people to think over and discuss religious issues, or the guy who cannot stand to see religious topics in the main forum?

And this morning, I ended this little exchange with this:

You don't want people to think; you want people to be pissed off for your twisted amusement. Again, you seem to think I just signed up yesterday. Being annoyed by your continuing efforts to be the Madonna of ChiefsPlanet certainly does not make me a bigot. Perhaps you should find a dictionary and look up that word.

And quit sending me these lame ass PMs. I really have nothing further to say to you about this that I won't say in the public forum, nor do I really give a shit what you think about it.


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So, as you can all see, I am "having a canipition fit" about CONTENTIOUS religious threads specifically designed to PISS PEOPLE OFF and CREATE HATE AND DISCONTENT in the MAIN FORUM which portrays the entire BB in a bad light. I want this stuff moved to DC. I have publicly stated this many times. Nowhere did I ever state they shouldn't be posted at all. I have been clear and forthright in my desire to get contentious religious topics to DC for years. I get tired of them, and I get tired of Jim stirring shit just to do it. I have also made this abundantly clear for years. Jim has rather disengenously attempted to twist my motives publicly and privately. And now this fucking thread.

Well, now you can all see the truth.

Up your ass, Jim. Sincerely. 4321

LOL I have nothing I am embarrassed by in those PMs, all posting them did is point out that you were the poster I was referencing but not mentioning. Your choice.:shrug:

By the way I did not suggest you said they should not be posted, go back an re-read the thread post.

GarySpFc 09-26-2007 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom
Fine she is dead too.

Do you believe there is a right and wrong?

Logical 09-26-2007 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GarySpFc
Do you believe there is a right and wrong?

I believe it is different for every individual based on their personal moral code. Only things codified as criminal by the law are absolute right and wrongs.

Mr Luzcious 09-26-2007 09:53 PM

I do rather enjoy them. I don't see the need to get offended whenever someone disagrees with you though..
I don't care if you think everything I say is bs, you're entitled to your opinion.. even though you are wrong :p

Logical 09-26-2007 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod
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Well, now you can all see the truth as I believe it to be.

Up your ass, Jim. Sincerely. 4321

Fixed the last part of your post Tim, by the way I still like and respect you. I find your anger a little strange, especially since you don't lay claim to being a strong Christian, why the Suck it thread should bother you so significantly suprised me. I tried to make it clear that I attempted to have the thread locked but you seemed not to care. Did you even contact Jeff to try and verify that what I claimed was true. Or did you assume I lied? I would never assume you lied and I suppose I should be angry, but knowing your hare trigger rage impulse I am not.

Logical 09-26-2007 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Luzcious
I do rather enjoy them. I don't see the need to get offended whenever someone disagrees with you though..
I don't care if you think everything I say is bs, you're entitled to your opinion.. even though you are wrong :p

That pretty much summarizes my belief in every single post I make.:p

Mr. Kotter 09-26-2007 10:21 PM

"Suck it," Jimbo.... :D


Seriously, though....religious topics can be fun, enlightening, and entertaining. Unfortunately, here at the Planet....there are some of us who enjoy stirring shit and being provocative.

However, stirring shit and being provocative....inexorably leads to insulting behavior and rhetoric, even unintentionally, and denigration of the heartfelt beliefs and opinions of rational and reasonable people--even if you disagree.

Therefore, religious threads....at a minimum, ought to be confined to D.C. IMHO. The aggrevation and pissin' contests and mental masturbation and self delusion that they necessarily require....don't belong in the Lounge, IMHO.

Noobs and the "normal" people here don't need to wade through that shit, without a condom IMHO.

:shake:

Frazod 09-26-2007 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom
Fixed the last part of your post Tim, by the way I still like and respect you. I find your anger a little strange, especially since you don't lay claim to being a strong Christian, why the Suck it thread should bother you so significantly suprised me. I tried to make it clear that I attempted to have the thread locked but you seemed not to care. Did you even contact Jeff to try and verify that what I claimed was true. Or did you assume I lied? I would never assume you lied and I suppose I should be angry, but knowing your hare trigger rage impulse I am not.

Yes, manipulate my post just as you attempt to manipulate everything else. You repeatedly ignore my answers and ask the same questions over and over. If you were a fucking idiot, I'd understand. But you're not. You're just being deliberately obtuse, milking yet another response out of me and prolonging your attention whoring. In the end, that's all it is, isn't it? - this is how you get attention, posting contentious crap and then watching people verbally assail one another, which is exactly what you want, so you feel empowered by it. Then you feign innocence and say "well, I never meant to upset anybody." That's bullshit, a lie, whatever you want to call it. You knew exactly the reaction you'd get with SUCK IT JESUS. Did you perhaps realize that you went too far? What difference does it make? It doesn't excuse what you did or why you did it.

And no, I'm NOT religious, as you well know. I'm simply sick of all the strife. SUCK IT JESUS simply doesn't belong on the main forum. Would you walk down the street saying "SUCK IT JESUS" to strangers? Of course you wouldn't - I've met you, Jim, and I know that you ACT OUT HERE BECAUSE IN REAL LIFE YOU'RE AS TIMID AS A fuckING CHURCHMOUSE. And that, Jim, is the difference between us - I don't have a persona here; I'm just myself.

stevieray 09-26-2007 10:26 PM

Religion as a topic is already a powder keg, religious topics that are prejudiced and discriminative is just lighting the fuse, IMO.


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