Just more king Carl arrogance. King Carl stands in front of the media and says I gave him a raise. BS! You had to or he was an immediate FA able to sign with anyone. Asswipe.:mad:

Wouldn't the double negative imply that he is going somewhere?


Sorry, pet peeve of mine. ::

How could he have possibly been a bad pick at the time? He was a fourth rounder who was a skilled pass-rusher. That hasn't changed.

I like how the guy without the criminal record is the debbil

Who says he wants to resign? Carl said some very nasty things to him in his last round of contract talks. This has John Tait written all over it as the Chiefs might not have the money to resign him (LJ eating up cash and a large debt to service on the renovation).

*And the thread ends*

I said that exact same thing in another previous thread. Carl should be negotiating NOW with Allen's agent, but Carl would rather pay JA the measley $2.5 mil now than upping the ante and we run the risk of losing him or pissing him off. Even if we franchise him we can still LOSE him if another team is willing to give up draft picks. Carl really sucks at building a complete team. I wish this ass clown would leave already.

Has any team ever given up two first round picks for a franchised player?

Galloway.

I think teams can also agree to lesser compensation. CP could agree to a 1st and 2nd.

You are assuming quite a bit. What inside info do you have that Carl isn't negotiating right now? Did he say we're not signing Allen to long term deal we're franchising him? Like the title of this thread says, Allen isn't leaving. He'll be a Chiefs next year and most likely for several more.

They also can structure contracts to work in their favor like a poisin pill or by giving all the money upfront. I'm sure there are some teams that would actually consider giving up picks for a premier DE going into their prime. JA is the real deal.

The main point is, if you already KNOW you are going to sign him long-term why wait and give teams an opportunity to set the pricetag for his services and or attempt to sign him away from us?


It's more in a long line of reasons why Carl is still an incompetent boob 19 years later.

"Even if they have to tag him" doesn't sound like there is much negotiating on, now does it?

Does it say they're only gonna tag him?

The point is why WAIT?

Just because JA can be franchised doesn't mean that they don't risk losing him. He's already made noises that he doesn't want to be here in KC. He can holdout. He can sit out the year if he has too. This is not college. His agent can loan him millions if he as too.

But it will probably go like Tony G's holdout in 2001-2? did. JA wants the big time deal. King carl refuses and franchises him. JA says FU I'm not reporting to camp. Long and nasty holdout ensues. 2-3 games into the season a long term deal gets done.

Some factors to consider.

• This is JA's agent first big time FA contract. The agent ses this as his big oppertunity to land more big time NFL clients he's not going to allow a hometown discount
• JA develops an attitude towards King Carl and the FO and leaves ala...Tait