ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Chiefs Draft Chase Daniels and Aqib Talib (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=177597)

Pablo 12-29-2007 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
I think he's pointing out that Smith was a more successful college QB and look how low he got picked.

Exactly. Daniel has the potential to be a fairly successful college QB as well. Will he be the Heisman winner next year, I doubt it.

Tebow could repeat.
Chris Wells will probably go off the charts.

Skip Towne 12-29-2007 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise
LMAO it doesn't mean crap for your draft status.

Look what it did for Jason White.

leviw 12-29-2007 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne
Look what it did for Jason White.

...and Eric Crouch.

Skip Towne 12-29-2007 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviw
...and Eric Crouch.

And Charlie Ward

Skip Towne 12-29-2007 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne
And Charlie Ward

And Chris Weinke

Eleazar 12-29-2007 02:15 PM

And Chris Weinke and Ron Dayne and Rashaan Salaam and Gino Toretta...

And hell, Reggie Bush for that matter.

Mr. Laz 12-29-2007 02:20 PM

hey .... at least it took 20 post before this became a KU/MU pissing match.

Pablo 12-29-2007 02:25 PM

Yeah yeah I get it. I didn't say all Heisman trophy winners are destined to be great NFL players.

Dayne did go in the 1st round however. I'm sure winning the Heisman was really detrimental to his draft status. It doesn't matter if it helps out by 1 pick or one round. The Heisman trophy enhances your draft status. It makes you a bit more marketable.

Are there more important criteria for evaluating a player? Yes. Is the Heisman winner something fans and coaching staffs alike look at in a positive manner, yes. It's not the determinant for great NFL players, but it's not a black mark either.

Winning the Heisman is beneficial to a players draft status and/or resume. It is not detrimental. There are exceptions to this rule, but overall, it isn't a bad thing to win the Heisman.

leviw 12-29-2007 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise
And Chris Weinke and Ron Dayne and Rashaan Salaam and Gino Toretta...

And hell, Reggie Bush for that matter.

[reading the future] ...and Tim Tebow [/future telling]

KCrockaholic 12-29-2007 03:40 PM

the best thing Chase Daniel has going for him is that he is a very smart player...hes a football player, sure hes only about 5'11 7/8 and weighs around 220 i believe but Drew Brees is only 6 feet tall and last time i checked he is one the the better QB's in the NFL. Last year he was unstoppable. Now i dont think Chase DANIEL will go on in the NFL and set all kinds of records and throw for 300TDs in his career but you cant second guess a football player that is as smart as Daniel just because hes a couple inches under what most NFL QB's stand at right now. The guy has great accuracy on his throws, so comparing him to Troy Smith is just dumb. Daniel is nothing like Troy Smith. 2 inches is not going to make or break a QB in the NFL. its just about if the guy can make plays and not put his team in positions where they cant recover. Doug Flutie did fine in the NFL at only 5'9. yeah he wasnt the best or anything but the man knew how to play football. Otto Graham was only 6'1 and he is one of footballs best legends. and possibly the best short QB in NFL history is Fran Tarkenton of the Vikings. he only stood at 6'0 just like Brees....Chase will likely sit the bench after he is in the NFL for a couple years but all im saying is you cant count him out before hes even gotten a chance

Pablo 12-29-2007 03:44 PM

Daniel isn't 6'0".

He's really about 5'10".

Two inches doesn't make all the difference in the world, but it does at the QB position. I'm sure it's fairly difficult for Brees to see over his line at times, and Daniel is about two inches shorter.

There's a big difference between being 6'2" and 6'4", and being 5'10" and 6'0".

KCrockaholic 12-29-2007 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88
Daniel isn't 6'0".

He's really about 5'10".

Two inches doesn't make all the difference in the world, but it does at the QB position. I'm sure it's fairly difficult for Brees to see over his line at times, and Daniel is about two inches shorter.

There's a big difference between being 6'2" and 6'4", and being 5'10" and 6'0".

have you stood next to him and measured? i didnt say he was 6'0 either. ive gone off of what all the scouting sites and NFL network has said. so how does that make him 5'10? i havent heard a single scout say he is 5'10, yet everyone on chiefsplanet thinks hes a midget.

Research it people!!!!!

Pablo 12-29-2007 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life
have you stood next to him and measured? i didnt say he was 6'0 either. ive gone off of what all the scouting sites and NFL network has said. so how does that make him 5'10? i havent heard a single scout say he is 5'10, yet everyone on chiefsplanet thinks hes a midget.

I've heard commentators and analysts alike all joke that he really stands about 5'9'', but I don't put a whole lot of stock into that. He's not 6'0''. Some sites say 6', some say 5'11", when analysts are making jokes about being 5'11" it's never a good thing.

5'10" is just a guess on my part, but I don't think 6' is correct on any level.

My highschool football program listed all of our players at a couple inches taller and heavier than they actually were. I'm sure college programs skew their stats a bit, not that badly, but he's not a tall QB, and doesn't have the natural body build of a NFL caliber QB.

And people I know that go to MU say he's "short". Not much of a compliment.

Que Card QB 12-29-2007 04:34 PM

Check this out.

http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/index

HonestChieffan 12-29-2007 05:28 PM

Sad but only Herm would actually do one or the other. It was inevitable that some dipsquat would start hyping Chase Daniel as a possible Chief.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:55 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.