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luv 09-17-2008 10:05 AM
Just to clarify....

I agree that a loss is a loss, but doesn't a loss to a division rival carry a little more weight? I mean, you could lose to everyone you play outside your division, but, as long as you have the best division record, you've got a wild card spot, right? Or am I confusing myself?

Hammock Parties 09-17-2008 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5028133)
Just to clarify....

I agree that a loss is a loss, but doesn't a loss to a division rival carry a little more weight? I mean, you could lose to everyone you play outside your division, but, as long as you have the best division record, you've got a wild card spot, right? Or am I confusing myself?
Yes, BUT, just sweeping your division doesn't mean you win it. You have to have the best overall record in the division.

HemiEd 09-17-2008 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5028077)
Huard. It's asinine to run out Thigpen. They ARE trying to win.

Fortunately he won't be out there unless Huard gets hurt again. Seriously, Croyle was better last year than Thigpen has ever been.
I would rather see them give Thigpen time, than trot Huard back out there. WTF is the point of putting Huard out there? We know what he is, and that is not what the team needs to be a contender.

I am convinced, Thigpen can get it, and has much more potential than trotting a never has been out there.

OnTheWarpath15 09-17-2008 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5028133)
Just to clarify....

I agree that a loss is a loss, but doesn't a loss to a division rival carry a little more weight? I mean, you could lose to everyone you play outside your division, but, as long as you have the best division record, you've got a wild card spot, right? Or am I confusing myself?
In most years, yeah, that's somewhat right. If we were a playoff caliber team, then the loss would be devastating. Division losses are generally bad.

But in 2008, with this team, it means absolutely nothing.

milkman 09-17-2008 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5028133)
Just to clarify....

I agree that a loss is a loss, but doesn't a loss to a division rival carry a little more weight? I mean, you could lose to everyone you play outside your division, but, as long as you have the best division record, you've got a wild card spot, right? Or am I confusing myself?
No.

You would be 6-10 in that scenario, and wild cards are the non division winners with the best record.

Hammock Parties 09-17-2008 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 5028143)
WTF is the point of putting Huard out there?
It's a business of winning.

When 80,000 fans want Herm's blood, you don't trot out the pride of coastal carolina.

FAX 09-17-2008 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5028115)
:doh!:

No offense, Phil, but that was a typical fan response.

Since when do games against the Raiders count for more in the standings?

Would we have gotten credit for 2 wins had we beat them?

Rivalrys are for fans.

The team didn't seem to be prepared, I'll give you that - but you're insinuating that it wouldn't be as big of a deal had it not been against the Raiders.

A loss is a loss, period.

And for crying out loud, Jason Garrett is being paid Head Coach money by Jerry Jones to keep him from taking another job - the job in Dallas is his, as early as next season.

Jason Garrett, Marty Schottenheimer, Bill Cowher.

Cross them off your list. Not coming here.
Division opponent, Mr. OnTheWarpath58. Division opponent.

FAX

milkman 09-17-2008 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5028141)
Yes, BUT, just sweeping your division doesn't mean you win it. You have to have the best overall record in the division.
This would be the correct answer if she asked if you'd win the division.

Chiefshrink 09-17-2008 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5028094)
Your assuming that Carl would make Gailey, who's a relative outside to the organization the HC, versus Gunther, who has a long history with the team.

If Carl's proven anything over the last 19 years, it's that the good 'ole boy network is not to be deviated from.
Would Gunther be stupid enough to get the shaft 2wice from Carl just being a fill in on top of how Gunther found out? I agree about the good'ole boy network:eek:

OnTheWarpath15 09-17-2008 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5028154)
Division opponent, Mr. OnTheWarpath58. Division opponent.

FAX
Which would matter if we're a playoff caliber team.

We're obviously not.

So a loss to Oakland isn't any different than a loss to Atlanta. Or New England. Or anyone else.

OnTheWarpath15 09-17-2008 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 5028158)
Would Gunther be stupid enough to get the shaft 2wice from Carl just being a fill in on top of how Gunther found out? I agree about the good'ole boy network:eek:
Uh, yeah.

See above posts.

Frazod 09-17-2008 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 5027915)
Bob Gretz really doesn't like fans, does he?
Well, I can't say I blame him.

If it wasn't for us, he wouldn't have to lie for a living.

Hammock Parties 09-17-2008 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5028155)
This would be the correct answer if she asked if you'd win the division.
Division winners are guaranteed a wild card home playoff game. That's kind of what she was asking.

bobbything 09-17-2008 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5027904)
The problem we have is that there isn't a single bulb to found among the coaches.
I agree. I think it's reflecting on the players.

philfree 09-17-2008 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5028115)
:doh!:

No offense, Phil, but that was a typical fan response.

Since when do games against the Raiders count for more in the standings?

Would we have gotten credit for 2 wins had we beat them?

Rivalrys are for fans.

The team didn't seem to be prepared, I'll give you that - but you're insinuating that it wouldn't be as big of a deal had it not been against the Raiders.

A loss is a loss, period.

And for crying out loud, Jason Garrett is being paid Head Coach money by Jerry Jones to keep him from taking another job - the job in Dallas is his, as early as next season.

Jason Garrett, Marty Schottenheimer, Bill Cowher.

Cross them off your list. Not coming here.
I really didn't say Raiders I said division oponent. And division games are a little more important then non-division games. Well.... if you're trying to win your division. Being totally unprepared last week is inexcusable. Being that unprepared to play any week is inexcusable. We seemed prepared againt the Patriots so I was fine with Herm till then but I'm not now because of his performance.

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No offense, Phil, but that was a typical fan response.
And you're some superior type of fan? LOL

PhilFree:arrow:


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