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aturnis 09-30-2008 07:49 PM

I'd say it would have been playcalling. When Brodie was in, they played it safe like they have done early in games all year. Not to mention it was the first game of the season. We started the season pretty conservative, and have slowly progressed the playbook with each series.

I don't know that the leash was for Brodie, or for the offense. I do know though, that Brodie looked great in training camp.

mikey23545 09-30-2008 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 5070476)
I effing hate this stupid mother******er. "I just couldn't do it. I could not put an individual above the team."

Stupid ******ing, self-righteous prick. How about putting Trent Green above the team in the play-off game against Indy?

He acted like TG was some practice squad receiver asking to playing QB, saying it would hurt the team, that was trying to win a game, by throwing a pass to TG. Effing liar, he does not give a shit about winning a game, i.e leaving Thigpen in after 5 straight three-and-outs in Atlanta, even though he claimed all week that Huard would come off the bench if Thigpen did not perform.

I have never hated this prick more than I do now after watching him pretend to care about winning, and bagging on TG.

I can't wait till this kool-aid serving, minstrel show preacher is on his way out of town! :cuss:


Wow, you're quite the idiot.
TG's self-centered tantrum has absolutely no place in team sports. He should have kept is arrogant mouth shut.

You'll probably never be able to grasp the idea unless masturbation becomes a team sport.

Marcellus 09-30-2008 07:53 PM

I would laugh harder at all the Hermanisms if he wasn't our coach, or we were winning at a .750 clip instead of a .0750 clip.

smittysbar 09-30-2008 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 5070700)
Wow, you're quite the idiot.
TG's self-centered tantrum has absolutely no place in team sports. He should have kept is arrogant mouth shut.

You'll probably never be able to grasp the idea unless masturbation becomes a team sport.

TG deserved it, team sport or not. Most teammates would go out of their way to help for an accomplishment this big by one of their teammates.

aturnis 09-30-2008 08:02 PM

No, he's not stupid, he just thinks swole is a word. Ever since he's been coaching this team, I've listened to him say that and could not believe it. Doesn't anyone correct him?

He has many other words he misuses, mispronounces, or just makes up. Idiot.

aturnis 09-30-2008 08:05 PM

No question, the team should have gotten him the record this week. In front of his fans, and his family. Classless by Herm. I do agree though, that Tony could have left his feeling unspoken.

FAX 09-30-2008 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 5070697)
I'd say it would have been playcalling. When Brodie was in, they played it safe like they have done early in games all year. Not to mention it was the first game of the season. We started the season pretty conservative, and have slowly progressed the playbook with each series.

I don't know that the leash was for Brodie, or for the offense. I do know though, that Brodie looked great in training camp.

I think you're right. As the season unfolds, we're seeing a subtle difference, Mr. aturnis. It appears there are a combination of issues driving the play selection ... some of it is entirely dependent on the game situation and the quarterback on the field, which is completely understandable ... but there are other factors as well ... I suppose part of it is Herm's overwhelming desire to establish the run no matter what (and it's safe to assume that's intended to try and get the o-line in sync, get LJ going, burn clock, etc.), part of it is Herm's nearly irrational fear of turnovers in the passing game, and part of it is (was) an attempt to bring Croyle along slowly by reining him in. Granted, Croyle's only been in a few series but the playcalling is even more conservative (if that's possible) when Croyle's in the game as compared to Downfield.

To me, that last part is (was) a little out of control. Other than experience (and that's why I thought we were playing the young guys), Downfield doesn't seem to have an edge on Croyle. He certainly can't run the boot or rollout. Nevertheless, they seem to allow him to pass the ball more often even though he has more INTs and sacks. Go figure.

FAX

Hammock Parties 09-30-2008 08:15 PM

We're also running a lot more play action now, although I did notice most of the play action was mostly one-man routes. That's OK, though. Baby steps! The offensive line blocked well for one of the old Vermeil play-action passes - the fake handoff, fake reverse, throw over the middle thingamajig!

DaneMcCloud 09-30-2008 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 5070748)
No, he's not stupid, he just thinks swole is a word. Ever since he's been coaching this team, I've listened to him say that and could not believe it. Doesn't anyone correct him?

He has many other words he misuses, mispronounces, or just makes up. Idiot.

I wasn't aware that a degree in English was required to be a football coach.

If you want DUMB ****ing press conferences, look no further than your resident D-Coordinator.

Gunther couldn't put together a 5 word sentence if you spotted him the first four words.

FAX 09-30-2008 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5070792)
We're also running a lot more play action now, although I did notice most of the play action was mostly one-man routes. That's OK, though. Baby steps! The offensive line blocked well for one of the old Vermeil play-action passes - the fake handoff, fake reverse, throw over the middle thingamajig!

If we can keep the running game going anywhere close to where it was on Sunday, play action should be money, Mr. GoChiefs. Between the RBs (we're deep there, by the way) including the FB, the TEs, and Bowe we have targets. I can envision us using the play action in combination with the bootleg to potentially do some serious damage.

FAX

smittysbar 09-30-2008 08:21 PM

Dane and Herm settin in a tree K I S S I.....................

Otter 09-30-2008 08:36 PM

Not one thin dime till this guy and the person who hired him to be a head coach is gone.

ChiefsFanatic 09-30-2008 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 5070700)
Wow, you're quite the idiot.
TG's self-centered tantrum has absolutely no place in team sports. He should have kept is arrogant mouth shut.

You'll probably never be able to grasp the idea unless masturbation becomes a team sport.

I am an idiot? TG has done nothing but give to the team, Chiefs fans, and this organization. He could have demanded a trade, left this team and left this fan base for a chance to win a championship, but chose to stay here.

Have you ever been proud when they talked about TG being the best tight end ever? Were you glad he was a Chief?

If you were, then you should have wanted him to get the record at home, like he wanted.

I bet you would have been one of the morons booing DT at the end of his career. I am an idiot? I am a Chiefs fan, and TG is one of the greatest Chiefs.

And it would not have hurt our chances for winning at all. Unless Croyle or Thigpen was under center.

CoMoChief 09-30-2008 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 5070457)
At the end of this, Herm was asked something about the QB position. He replied something along the lines of, he won a game, hopefully he can win another, then if he does then it will get interesting after the bye. Stay tuned, and took off.


I swear to god, if he throws another season away on Huard, I am done!

If Huard helps us get to the playoffs then leave him in.

The best thing for this young team long term down the road is to learn how to win in this league, and learn how to win without particularly a QB. Learn how to take over a game in the running game or defensively. Learn how to take over the game on ST. These young players all around need to learn how to win and the best way for them to win is with the best players on the field. Right now our best QB, the one with most experience and the one that's been most successful is Huard. Whether you like it or not he's the best that we got. He's not long term obviously but right now we don't have a long term solution. I think the coaches are realizing the fact that Croyle is fragile and that it isn't anything new. Some just get injured too much to really have an impact on the field. Thats just the way it goes sometimes. I mean Croyle dropped into the 3rd round because he was inj too often in college with surgeries etc. It's not like it's anything new and his physique isn't anything to be excited about when someone slams him into the turf like in NE.

I'm not saying we are gonna make the playoffs. But I sure as hell want to try and win every game possible and not just tank ****ing games because we need higher draft picks. There are going to be good draftees in the first round regardless. We just need to learn how to draft better in late rounds. That's the key. We had our huge foundation draft this season. Now we need to look a little in FA and add 3-4 more starters through the draft and this team can compete. Getting a QB in next seasons offseason is a MUST FIRST PRIORITY though.

Can Huard lead us to the playoffs? I can't say. I would bet no, but he also went 5-3 and led us to the playoffs when everyone thought our season was over when Green went out. When our running game can bust loose this team can hang with almost anyone. Now the defense is better, we have more speed, and I think the big win at DEN kinda opened up the eyes of the younger players on defense and may have given them more confidence and swagger, which is what these players need at this point, especially what has happend the first 3 games with the shitty play. I think the players started to lose faith in themselves coaches everyone, and started to believe that they were the worse team in the league.

What I do know is that thie season Huard gives us the best chance to win. The players need to know the coaching staff is doing eveything they can to put them in positions to win. with Thigpen the players looked hopeless, they looked tired, like they just wanted to quit and looked like they didnt have a chance to win. Rightfully so as the Thigpen experiment in the reg season is just a giant slap in the players faces. How the **** can this team have ANY success on offense or defense at all when he's starting for the first time against first teamers when the game is so much faster than what he's been used to. You make those decisions in preseason, not when real games are at stake.

These players need to know how to win games. That is the best thing for this team right now. Huard doesn't need to lead us to glory with huge stats, he just needs to not make mistakes and make the throws when he needs to make them. He was VERY efficient last week for the most part. YPP needs to increase and it will with better playcalling. Just put the best players in position to make plays and this team can compete. The best thing that could happen for this young team is to make a run at the playoffs. That would set a lot in stone for years to come.



I've been smoking a lot of pot tonite so I've just decided to have a positive post once in a while. Since this place deserves one. :)

DaneMcCloud 09-30-2008 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 5070848)
I am an idiot? TG has done nothing but give to the team, Chiefs fans, and this organization. He could have demanded a trade, left this team and left this fan base for a chance to win a championship, but chose to stay here.

Really? Where was he going to go?

Could he predict that the NY Giants would win the Super Bowl in 2008? The Colts in 2007? The Steelers in 2006?

Tony Gonzalez could have left the Chiefs after his contract expired but he'd need knowledge from the future in order to "win a championship".

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 5070848)
Have you ever been proud when they talked about TG being the best tight end ever? Were you glad he was a Chief?

Proud, because a I'm a fan of team? Are you ****ing kidding? Should all the Patriots fans across the country be "proud" of Tom Brady? Or Randy Moss? Give me a ****ing break.

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 5070848)
If you were, then you should have wanted him to get the record at home, like he wanted.

There's no "I" in team.


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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 5070848)
I bet you would have been one of the morons booing DT at the end of his career. I am an idiot? I am a Chiefs fan, and TG is one of the greatest Chiefs.

I'm sure you'll be cheering for Larry Johnson to get a few carries to put him in the record books as well, I take it?


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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 5070848)
And it would not have hurt our chances for winning at all. Unless Croyle or Thigpen was under center.

According to 90% of the jokers that post here, the Chiefs can't game plan for shit.

What makes you think they can gameplan for a "special" Tony Gonzalez play?

And why should they?

Is Tony Gonzalez above the team?


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