I don't think he can, but your point stands.

LJ is a ****ing scumbag and for anyone other than Peterson HB is about the easiest position to hit on in the draft...

Anyone know his contract numbers for next year?

Good RBs should always be the last piece of a rebuild. Get everyone else in place, and then pick a good RB high in the draft.
That's the best way to get the most, for the longest out of a good RB. The RB will be young, and cheap throughout your 4-6 year window.

It seems to me we were always one good RB away back in the marty era.

now ........ we might be able to trade Larry Johnson to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

they are making a real run and he would fit well into their system.

they have lots or RB injuries and LJ could be that final piece that they could be willing to overpay for

You need to read the entire debated between Brock and I to fully understand. My point has been that we can't afford to use a draft pick on RB because we have too many other holes that must be filled (MLB, OLB, DE, OT, OG, QB, CB). It's not good strategy to create another hole by cutting LJ or trading him for little in return. He is still a very productive back. We have the opporutinity to go after some of his guaranteed money because of his suspensions. The smart play would be to turn that guaranteed money into incentive money and motivate him financially to be the back we need him to be.

Fair enough, but Parker and Grant are a dime a dozen. How many URFA were there in the year they entered the NFL. They are 1 out of a boatload of guys. The Packers didn't even sign the guy, they traded for him after the Giants signed him. Once again, we don't have the draft picks to spend on a RB this year.

So is Larry Johnson. When was the last time he made a play that made you sit up and take notice? For the kind of money you're laying out for him, he'd better be able to punch it in from the one.

The trade deadline passed October 14th.

I highly doubt that the Steelers would trade for him in 2009.

It doesn't matter who is running the ball, if the O-Line doesn't get a push at the 1 yard line NO RUNNING is going to "punch it in". That was on the O-line last week, not LJ.

BTW, I errored in my statement. I meant to say that Parker and Grant are NOT a dime a dozen. I believe my followup sentence supported that. There are far more guys that don't have NFL talent that are URFA.

LJ is not a dime a dozen either. To answer your questoin, I sat up and took notice against the Falcons. I sat up and took notice when he went for almost 200 yards against the Broncos. In fact, I sat up and took notice when he ripped off 8 yards a carry against the Saints until the O-Line got punked on the goalline.

you're a lot more impressed with him than I am. I'll leave it at that.

Fair enough. Let's be clear. I think he is replaceable, but I think we have too many holes to fill to spend time, energy, money and/or draft picks on his spot when we have him already.

They have good depth come next year with Parker, Mendenhall and i assume Moore is signed too

this is true ...... i guess i thought everyone was just talking hypothetical.

Why are so many people so damn negative all the time? The same people clammering that LJ has no trade value, are the same people that said Hall, Tynes, and Sims had no trade value. Somebody out there will give a 2nd for Larry.