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Mr. Flopnuts 01-12-2009 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5382155)
Not to detract from the CP throwdown, but I re-watched Dark Knight again last night and looked specifically at the Joker. There were none of Heath Ledger's normal voice inflections, none of his normal mannerisms, nothing. Every aspect of the character was totally the character. I looked and looked and could find NOTHING wrong with his performance. I'm not a big technical movie guy, but from my thinking, it was a flawless performance. Honestly, between the acting and the makeup, if I didn't know beforehand that it was Heath Ledger, I wouldn't have been able to tell from the film.

No way dude. I couldn't have stayed more uninvolved. I've had some epic battles on this site, this one didn't even incinerate a heated response.

unothadeal 01-12-2009 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 5382154)
Agreed. There are people who say that his performance is overrated because of his death, which is simply not true. Michael Caine said Ledger's Joker was extremely scary and (if I recall correctly) worthy of awards before they even wrapped shooting.

The third Nolan Batman film was going to be about the Joker's trial. I come close to tears thinking about how awesome that would have been.

I've already gotten through knowing the amount of movie history we're going to miss out on without Ledger in the next Batman films, I don't need you reminding me thank you very much.

Ebolapox 01-12-2009 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 5382154)
Agreed. There are people who say that his performance is overrated because of his death, which is simply not true. Michael Caine said Ledger's Joker was extremely scary and (if I recall correctly) worthy of awards before they even wrapped shooting.

The third Nolan Batman film was going to be about the Joker's trial. I come close to tears thinking about how awesome that would have been.

I've heard that a dude named crispin glover is being considered as the next joker. wonder if they just lock the joker's character up in arkham asylum and barely mention him--it would be a travesty to follow up ledger's joker with anyone--nobody can hold his jock as far as the joker is concerned.

unothadeal 01-12-2009 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 5382166)
I've heard that a dude named crispin glover is being considered as the next joker. wonder if they just lock the joker's character up in arkham asylum and barely mention him--it would be a travesty to follow up ledger's joker with anyone--nobody can hold his jock as far as the joker is concerned.

Has it been announced that Nolan's doing another Batman film for sure?

Mr. Flopnuts 01-12-2009 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 5382166)
I've heard that a dude named crispin glover is being considered as the next joker. wonder if they just lock the joker's character up in arkham asylum and barely mention him--it would be a travesty to follow up ledger's joker with anyone--nobody can hold his jock as far as the joker is concerned.

I didn't think there was anyway that Ledger would top Nicholson's performance. ****. He killed it.

On a side note, NBC just showed a preview for a new show called "Kings". Looks to have potential.

Ebolapox 01-12-2009 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by unothadeal (Post 5382167)
Has it been announced that Nolan's doing another Batman film for sure?

at his point, EVERYTHING is conjecture. it would surprise me if they DIDN'T do another one, the way they left the last one (batman=the bad guy) kinda says they will. however, nothing shocks me these days.

Thig Lyfe 01-12-2009 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5382161)
No way dude. I couldn't have stayed more uninvolved. I've had some epic battles on this site, this one didn't even incinerate a heated response.

Well, yeah, clearly you weren't even trying. I mean, "get laid", "stick in the ass" and "sand in the vagina" back-to-back-to-back? You were really phoning that shit in.

I didn't think it was a throwdown either, nor did I want it to be. It was just my general reaction to all the lame Brokeback jokes out there.

As an aside, Crash sucked hardcore.

Ebolapox 01-12-2009 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5382168)
I didn't think there was anyway that Ledger would top Nicholson's performance. ****. He killed it.

On a side note, NBC just showed a preview for a new show called "Kings". Looks to have potential.

This. I recalled thinking that there was no way ledger could carry nicholson's jock. ledger made jack look like a fairy running around in purple velvet.

blueballs 01-12-2009 01:05 AM

Entourage jumped a limp wristed shark

Thig Lyfe 01-12-2009 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5382155)
Not to detract from the CP throwdown, but I re-watched Dark Knight again last night and looked specifically at the Joker. There were none of Heath Ledger's normal voice inflections, none of his normal mannerisms, nothing. Every aspect of the character was totally the character. I looked and looked and could find NOTHING wrong with his performance. I'm not a big technical movie guy, but from my thinking, it was a flawless performance. Honestly, between the acting and the makeup, if I didn't know beforehand that it was Heath Ledger, I wouldn't have been able to tell from the film.

Agreed. I saw bits and pieces of 10 Things I Hate About You a few weeks ago, and I couldn't believe THAT guy was the Joker. He really disappeared in that role.

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Originally Posted by unothadeal (Post 5382164)
I've already gotten through knowing the amount of movie history we're going to miss out on without Ledger in the next Batman films, I don't need you reminding me thank you very much.

Heh, sorry.

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Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 5382166)
I've heard that a dude named crispin glover is being considered as the next joker. wonder if they just lock the joker's character up in arkham asylum and barely mention him--it would be a travesty to follow up ledger's joker with anyone--nobody can hold his jock as far as the joker is concerned.

While Crispin Glover is indeed creepy as hell, no way would I let him or anyone else reprise the Joker. It would be pointless. Even Daniel Day-Lewis, who would similarly immerse himself in the role, shouldn't do it, just because Ledger made it HIS role.

I would like to see Glover as some other villain. He fits Nolan's established vibe.

Thig Lyfe 01-12-2009 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by blueballs (Post 5382175)
Entourage jumped a limp wristed shark

It jumped from episode one.

Here's the thing about Entourage: it's actually a decently interesting show. The behind-the-scenes aspect is well done and makes it somewhat watchable.

But it is NOT funny. At all. I have maybe smirked two, three times watching that show. Total. It doesn't qualify as a comedy because there are no jokes. And it's not really a drama, either, because there's not really any weight to it.

If there was some weird, nebulous genre that was neither comedy nor drama, that didn't require much in the way of writing or acting to be effective, Entourage would be the best show of that genre. But as no such genre exists to my knowledge, it's just a horribly overrated piece of shiny crap that remains completely bereft of laughs.

unothadeal 01-12-2009 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 5382181)
It jumped from episode one.

Here's the thing about Entourage: it's actually a decently interesting show. The behind-the-scenes aspect is well done and makes it somewhat watchable.

But it is NOT funny. At all. I have maybe smirked two, three times watching that show. Total. It doesn't qualify as a comedy because there are no jokes. And it's not really a drama, either, because there's not really any weight to it.

If there was some weird, nebulous genre that was neither comedy nor drama, that didn't require much in the way of writing or acting to be effective, Entourage would be the best show of that genre. But as no such genre exists to my knowledge, it's just a horribly overrated piece of shiny crap that remains completely bereft of laughs.

You just described a documentary.

Thig Lyfe 01-12-2009 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by unothadeal (Post 5382183)
You just described a documentary.

Heh, well, I was thinking of that. Entourage is basically a fictionalized documentary. But even documentaries generally at least have something other than "Hey, look at this, isn't this cool?" driving its real-life plot.

Unfortunately, it insists on labeling itself as a comedy.

DaneMcCloud 01-12-2009 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 5382186)
Heh, well, I was thinking of that. Entourage is basically a fictionalized documentary. But even documentaries generally at least have something other than "Hey, look at this, isn't this cool?" driving its real-life plot.

Unfortunately, it insists on labeling itself as a comedy.

I've said this from season one: If you don't live and work in Hollywood, I seriously doubt that "Entourage" is entertaining and/or funny.

Thig Lyfe 01-12-2009 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5382193)
I've said this from season one: If you don't live and work in Hollywood, I seriously doubt that "Entourage" is entertaining and/or funny.

I don't live in New York or work at NBC, but 30 Rock is somehow hilarious. I think it's because they write jokes and stuff.


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