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RedThat 01-17-2009 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdreams1 (Post 5399467)
hes going to play in the 3-4 he wont come to KC
I can't see Peppers being effective in a 3-4 scheme.

DJ's left nut 01-17-2009 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5399498)
I can't see Peppers being effective in a 3-4 scheme.
More critically, I can't see him being nearly as valuable.

He's clearly not a 3-4 end, he's a 3-4 OLB. There's no way he's going to get the contract he wants as a 3-4 OLB.

I think he sees the season DeMarcus Ware just had and wants a piece of that. I don't think he's really thought it through that much.

He'll be a 4-3 end for someone next season.

Mecca 01-17-2009 01:22 PM
Julius Peppers is way to big to be playing OLB in a 3-4...

I seriously doubt any team out there is going to want to put a guy who's 6'7 280lbs at OLB.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-17-2009 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 5399436)
Yep. With Suggs a close second.

I know we've been burned before, with Chester McGlocktons and Shawn Barbers and Kendrell Bells and Sammy Knights and Pat Surtains and Ty Laws and Donnie Edwards Reduxes, but now we don't have Carl Peterson, and in all likelihood we'll have a different (read: competent) coaching staff. It's much less likely that Peppers or Suggs would flame out like seemingly every other defensive FA that has come through Kansas City in the past decade or so.
I don't know about Suggs, but I'm confident that Julius is not a lazy **** that will lay down when he gets paid. I'm not sure there is a more motivated player in the league. The fact that you never hear about the dude except on Sundays should work in his favor as well.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-17-2009 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5399508)
I don't know about Suggs, but I'm confident that Julius is not a lazy **** that will lay down when he gets paid. I'm not sure there is a more motivated player in the league. The fact that you never hear about the dude except on Sundays should work in his favor as well.
Of course, I thought the same thing about Jevon Kearse so what the **** do I know?

Frankie 01-17-2009 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5399355)
Love Julius Peppers.

But if the Chiefs decide to go 3-4, then you have to pass on JP and go with Terrell Suggs.
I really don't think 3-4 is Pioli's carved-on-stone preference. I think signing Peppers would be a fast giant step toward realistic SuperBowl chances.

DJ's left nut 01-17-2009 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5399505)
Julius Peppers is way to big to be playing OLB in a 3-4...

I seriously doubt any team out there is going to want to put a guy who's 6'7 280lbs at OLB.
It's not a natural fit, but it seems better than putting a speed rusher at end in a 3-4 scheme.

Mecca 01-17-2009 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 5399518)
It's not a natural fit, but it seems better than putting a speed rusher at end in a 3-4 scheme.
Usually you have to be quick enough and agile enough to drop back and cover to play 3-4 OLB both the outside backers don't rush every single time...unless you're just a situational guy.

BWillie 01-17-2009 01:41 PM
This guy is gonna get paid. Remember I think 2009 or 2010 is an uncapped year.

Easy 6 01-17-2009 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TipRoast (Post 5399155)
So if you're wondering if Pioli will sign a Peppers or a Suggs, my answer is yes, but a bigger question is this: do those players want to come to KC?
Now that we have a Bona Fide winner at GM, they just might.

bowener 01-17-2009 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 5399143)
translation: I'm looking for a HUGE payday.
It makes sense too. Yes he could get $17 million for next season, barring injury, he would then be 29 next off season. He would get a hell of a lot less money being 29 than 28, and, depending on any agreements that are come to with the NFLPA, could some how, affect his payday next year.

bowener 01-17-2009 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Crybaby Power (Post 5399311)
How would Suggs do in a 4-3? I wouldnt want him to be another Kendrell Bell failure because hes playing in the wrong system.
Doesn't Suggs play RDE in a 4-3 right now? He is a stud in either system, which would be a reason I think that Pioli might actually look to sign him. It seems the Pats love versatile guys on their teams, and he can play with a hand on the ground or upright in the 34, plus he is supposed to be level headed and a good team player.

bowener 01-17-2009 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 5399738)
Now that we have a Bona Fide winner at GM, they just might.
Agreed... never doubt the power of money either.

Mr. Laz 01-17-2009 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 5399759)
Doesn't Suggs play RDE in a 4-3 right now? He is a stud in either system, which would be a reason I think that Pioli might actually look to sign him. It seems the Pats love versatile guys on their teams, and he can play with a hand on the ground or upright in the 34, plus he is supposed to be level headed and a good team player.
i believe baltimore runs a 3-4

bowener 01-17-2009 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5399968)
i believe baltimore runs a 3-4
Ok. I dont watch them often obviosuly, but I know at some point I saw him playing DE this year... maybe just a 43 set, or 34 over or whatever they call it.


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