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OnTheWarpath15 07-07-2009 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5885634)
Whoa, cowboy.

How many times have you been in an elevator and heard "Stairway to Heaven" on the Muzak?

If the Beatles were just a "cultural phenom", why have they and their music endured for more than 45 years?

:shake:

One of the things I took from my Music Appreciation class last semester.

The professor simply defined "good" music as "music that lasts."

The Beatles will arguably still be talked about the way Bach, Beethoven, Wagner, etc are today in future decades and centuries.

Bands like LZ may not even be part of a discussion in 20 years, much less 50, 100 or more.

Hammock Parties 07-07-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5885653)

The professor simply defined "good" music as "music that lasts."

I just discovered Aldo Nova!

Ebolapox 07-07-2009 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5885653)
One of the things I took from my Music Appreciation class last semester.

The professor simply defined "good" music as "music that lasts."

The Beatles will arguably still be talked about the way Bach, Beethoven, Wagner, etc are today in future decades and centuries.

Bands like LZ may not even be part of a discussion in 20 years, much less 50, 100 or more.

not to take away from your point, but LZ was simply brilliant in some of their works. granted, I'm not a huge LZ fan, but some of their stuff stands that test of time.

wild1 07-07-2009 05:21 PM

Elvis was the biggest thing of his era. The Beatles were the Elvis of their era. Michael Jackson was the Elvis of his era. They are all the same in a way.

OnTheWarpath15 07-07-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 5885671)
not to take away from your point, but LZ was simply brilliant in some of their works. granted, I'm not a huge LZ fan, but some of their stuff stands that test of time.

My idea of "time" differs from yours, apparently.

Not trying to discredit LZ, but I have a hard time believing that their music will still be discussed in 20 years, where The Beatles will go down in the history books as game-changers - and will be talked about in the same circles as the all-time greats for the next 50, 100 or more.

We still talk about Mozart, Beethoven, etc CENTURIES after their work was introduced. I think the Beatles will be the same.

"Bob" Dobbs 07-07-2009 05:28 PM

Maybe this should be it's own thread, but what rock-era bands WILL stand the test of time (>50 years, say)? I'll grant Elvis and the Beatles, but who else?

Ebolapox 07-07-2009 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5885686)
My idea of "time" differs from yours, apparently.

Not trying to discredit LZ, but I have a hard time believing that their music will still be discussed in 20 years, where The Beatles will go down in the history books as game-changers - and will be talked about in the same circles as the all-time greats for the next 50, 100 or more.

We still talk about Mozart, Beethoven, etc CENTURIES after their work was introduced. I think the Beatles will be the same.

with that rubric, I agree with you. to me, there are VERY few of those artists that are remembered a minimum of 50 years after their time. will LZ be remembered like that? I highly doubt it.

I'd guess that MAYBE an artist a generation gets that honor. there's obviously nothing concrete about it, but considering those who we're talking about, look at the generational gap. elvis and the beatles were KINDA contemporary, but in their heyday, not really. mj, obviously, wasn't contemporary.

who else could be considered in that league? I could offer up robert johnson, the 'founder' of the blues (inasmuch as blues truly HAS a founder, that is). music historians will always remember robert johnson. I really can't think of many others though, and nobody REALLY stands out.

interesting thread of thought.

Ebolapox 07-07-2009 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SEKChiefsFan (Post 5885702)
Maybe this should be it's own thread, but what rock-era bands WILL stand the test of time (>50 years, say)? I'll grant Elvis and the Beales, but who else?

obviously, rush.

:spock:

"Bob" Dobbs 07-07-2009 05:33 PM

LOL I could make a case for Nirvana. They pretty much resurrected guitars when Teen Spirit came out. Changed music overnight.

"Bob" Dobbs 07-07-2009 05:33 PM

...and I think I agree on Rush.

Ebolapox 07-07-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SEKChiefsFan (Post 5885714)
LOL I could make a case for Nirvana. They pretty much resurrected guitars when Teen Spirit came out. Changed music overnight.

hmmmm.... maybe.

jimi hendrix? possibly.

B.B. king? maybe.



(and I was j/k about rush, I'm not really a fan. they're ok, but they're not the gods some of their fans make them out to be)

"Bob" Dobbs 07-07-2009 05:37 PM

Rush is a pretty ****ing good band. They'll be remembered, but just not as one of the biggies.

Jimi? Yes.
Chuck Berry? **** yes.

Nzoner 07-07-2009 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 5885374)
The Beatles were just the first boy band.


oh dear lord :rolleyes:

Halfcan 07-07-2009 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5885634)
Whoa, cowboy.

How many times have you been in an elevator and heard "Stairway to Heaven" on the Muzak?

If the Beatles were just a "cultural phenom", why have they and their music endured for more than 45 years?

:shake:

Oh the elevator test-well I stand corrected. :rolleyes:

"Bob" Dobbs 07-07-2009 05:38 PM

The Who & The Stones? Absolutely.


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