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Yeah, but he was ONLY 6'3"

God you are pathetic. If Cutler was still a donk, you would be making his case for best QB in the league. You're damn user name was Cutler.
Now he sucks? You're a joke.

Oh that's right........
I apologize.

Dungver will win a few home games .........................

Yep you guys got Vrabel before you got Cassel.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ghlight=Vrabel
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ghlight=Vrabel

I picked my username before we lost a 3 game division lead with 3 games to go.

I'm not going to read through either of these threads t find out if there is proof that Vrabel was in KC three or four days before the trade was done.

Show me somewhere, specific where there is proof that Vrabel was in KC in the days before the deal was done.

I misread an article at Rotworld. They posted the Matt Cassel trade on March 1st and posted the Vrabel trade on February 28th.

You guys got Vrabel the 27th and Cassel on the 28th.

And didn't change it until after he was traded.

I'm tired of denvers and vandys wins and losses all being blamed on cutler.
Vandy played in the fuqin SEC, and Cutler still put up awesome numbers with shit talent around him, and Denvers D is utter shit.

Orrin is going to look like a fuqing joke trying to bring his team back from 2 Tds like Cutler was always trying to do.
Orrin was playing with a damn good Defense, and was playing game manager that's why his td int ratio was so good. Cause he wasn't asked to do shit.
I cannot wait for this season to start.

So, what you are suggesting here, let me know if I get it wrong, is that we traded a second round pick for Varbel, and that Belichick, just out of the kindness of his heart, threw Cassel into the deal the next day.

The fact that vrabel was traded was announced a few days before the full details of the trade were announced, which included Cassel, and the 2nd, and 5th rnd picks. The first details were just that vrabel had been traded, they didn't even say what he had been traded for.

It was reported that you got Vrabel before you got Cassel is all I'm saying.

Then why didn't you say it that way?

any donkey fan saying Orton is upgrade over Cutler, is the biggest homer fan i have ever seen

Peyton Manning didn't have a defense his first 4 or 5 years in the league, and he still led them to the playoffs every year. Cutler has had plenty of weapons in Denver, and didn't lead us anywhere. He is too reckless. Yeah, he can make some amazing plays, but he also makes some VERY DUMB throws that no QB in the league would throw.

Orton is a safety first QB. All of his scouting reports say that. Orton did have a good defense, but he had jack squat on offense. He showed that he can be a very good QB in this league before his ankle injury.