Maybe other people are doing this, but I personally don't give two shits about their feelings. What I'm trying to do is argue the reality of the situation. Whether you like it or not, the reality of the NFL is that most of these guys do not respond to this kind of approach because they are already grown men who are multi millionaires. Yeah, I think that this approach might work for guys who are doing everything to stick in the NFL, as they've got a tenuous grip on their jobs, but for players who can find jobs elsewhere, or who are quite talented, I don't think it applies.

I can tell you this. There was no harder screw to walk a turn of the NFL sidelines than Bill Belichick, but he'd never talk to Brady like this. Hell, Brady was bitching at Belichick on the sidelines during one of the games this year.

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeexactly.

So I guess we can lump Anquan Boldin in that group that doesn't do their job.

If you think getting your players to buy in "because I ****ing said so", doesn't run risks on a team that been residing in the gutter for the last 3 years...

Belichick does talk to Brady "like this", although "like this" is cursing, not yelling. Brady has pointed that out himself, as has Rodney Harrison. I can't find the Brady quotes, but here's Harrison:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/danpatrick/blog/72403/

Hell, Chiefs fans should know that nobody is safe from Belichick's comments, given the story that Gonzalez has told about his experience with Belichick in the Pro Bowl.

Big deal.

This good number of players have won 7 games in 39 chances.

I don't care who's feelings are hurt. Weed them out, get guys here who want to work for wins and respect, and move forward.

Belichick has won more than 1 game as a head coach.

Any approach has huge potential for failure.

I like most of the people on this board that have been criticial of Haley, but it's amazing to see the 2 sides of the fence emerge again in a Bernard Pollard gets his feelings hurt thread.

Insubordinate and untalented is a bad combination.

And Stevie, most of these guys have no concept of a DI other than what they've seen in the movies. You can tell by their responses.

What approach should he have used here?

Herm tried the fatherly figure. Didn't work.

Dick tried the loving grandfather angle. Didn't work.

How can you change a culture in a place that has needed a change for 10 years without being an asshole?

Marty was a real asshole when he came here in 1989, but no one was freaking out about it.

Good God, you are one useless dumb****.

Again, you assume that talented and rich NFL players will respond to this without a winning culture already in place. Maybe if you're Parcells or Belichick, they will, but it's hard to get the respect of players doing this, and it's a great way to lose the team ASAP. That's the problem with being a dictator sans results. Look at Mangini.

You're going to have a hard time doing both. Talented established guys aren't going to want to come in and work for a known drill sergeant asshole who may cut him weeks later. A high priced vet is going to avoid a team that is hacking the roster with a chainsaw every other week and treats the players with little respect.

You can still be a disciplinarian and not be an inveterate one who sucks the penis. It's not that hard to comprehend. Firm, but fair.

I knew down inside this was the whole ****ing problem. Being cursed to is one thing but being cussed at and demeaned is something else. We lost a quality player because our coach is a childish puss. He is going to cost us some good players before the beginning of next season and we'll be looking to start over again two years from now when he gets canned.

Okay, I think you're exaggerating. Pollard is not a "quality" player. He's average at his best. We couldn't even get a seventh rounder out of the guy.