I would like Spiller, but I just don't know if he's the kind of guy you are going to get 8-10 really productive years out of. I see Eric Berry, and I think you've got a guy who will probably play for 10 years and go to 5-6 Pro Bowls.

If I'm a team that doesn't have a lot of holes and he drops out of the top 10, I'm packaging picks to get him, though.

Can you imagine him in Philly with Maclin, Jackson, McCoy, and Celek?

No. McClain would be an upgrade over the current shit they have at ILB but in a deep draft he's not a game changer.

I will be not be happy if we draft McClain at all. I think he was covered up and made to look better than he was. He is slow and will have trouble in the NFL.

Rolando is to our defense what Clausen is to our offense. A player that has lead the unit for three years and has grown by leaps and bounds in that time and would come in with vast experience in our scheme.

I feel Rolando would help every member of this defense right off the bat and be the leader on the field immediately. DJ would benefit from playing right next to him the most of any defender, someone he can communicate with on the field to help him.

For the people that go to the ChiefsCoalition, here is a link to a very well done breakdown of Rolando vs Spoon.

http://www.chiefscoalition.com/Forum...howtopic=20144

Yeah, that's a good argument about a really high running back. But if you get five years of running back and five years of kick returner, maybe it's like dog years or something and you can add them separately.

The thing I'm liking more and more is that he solves multiple problems with one pick: breather back, returner, and receiver in some packages.

if we are going to reach on position value at #5 then we should just reach on a safety in Eric Berry.

If we trade down we better rape somebody

a 2nd to go down to cleveland at 7
two 1st to down from cleveland to the 49ers

etc

I voted "Yes with an extra 3rd", though it would be really lukewarm support. I would rather have Weatherspoon and I think a 2nd would be in order rather than a third. Didn't Cleveland have to give up a 2nd to Washington when they moved up one spot to take Winslow?

This exactly.

Not at #5 and not at the pick that we only get a 3rder for

I say yes if we trade down, but 7 is the edge of my comfort. I think he would add a bit of passion to this D that has none besides being a fine player.

I disagree. Clausen has the ball every play McClain doesn't. I'd say this team needs some speed and athletes before they need leadership.

I would "support" the pick with a third thrown in. That does not mean it would be my preference.

For example, if we traded down to #7 for a third, we'd know Cleveland was going to take either Berry or Clausen. We are gambling Seattle takes a LT, so that our other choice is there. Say Seattle surprises us and takes our other choice. Now we are screwed, we try to trade down further, we can't, so we take McClain. I think that is okay. We took a chance and lost, but still ended up with a pro bowl caliber ILB and an extra early third round pick that could be used to trade up into the low first round, or get us a decent WR, or safety.

I wasnt comparing the players. I was comparing the situation each would bring to each side of the ball.

Clausen has basically ran our exact offense for the last 3 years, Rolando has ran a very similar defense to ours the last three years.

McClain is frankly the biggest fear out there because he fits all of that right 53 and safe pick bullshit that Pioli spouts.

Dez Bryant is taking more abuse then he deserves IMO. There is no way I would take him at 5 but if he slipped to the second round I would be all over him.