The Chiefs had 5 last season

So they're cutting Rudy and Palko? Why are there only 52 men on the roster? I also doubt they cut Washington at safety.

I suppose they could keep 2 centres, that would bring the roster up to 53. From what I've seen Niswanger hasn't improved at all so I'd rather give the roster spot to someone else.

I could see keeping Washington over Richardson as he can play S and CB.

I doubt they keep two fullbacks when Battle can also play FB. And not having two centers is pretty F'n dumb. Rudy makes the team. And I really DOUBT they give up on Washington already. Especially since it looks like he's improved this season.

The question for me is do they throw in the towel on Magee already?

If we wanted uncertainty over mediocrity, we would cut half of our offensive line and replace them with promising training camp cuts from other teams.

Whatever. It's my fault we're even discussing this. Copper is going to be the 5th receiver if he makes the team. The job of the 5th receiver is NOT to have the potential to be an all-pro. Know why? Because he never ****ing sees the field. Copper's contributions are way more valuable than anything Horne or Urban could do for us this season. Not because Horne can't improve, get better, and make it in this league, but simply because he's next to last on the 53-man depth chart if he makes it. He's going to be the inactive guy nearly every Sunday. Meaning, **** him. We don't need him this season. He can play on the practice squad and get better for next offseason if that were his job.

You don't value Copper because you're glossing over the importance of good special teams players. I mean, special teams is the most boring aspect of football for a lot of people. But if we're going to have this **** awesome kick returner that we drafted, we're going to need blockers and we're going to need gunners on coverage teams in order for this fancy new ST package to make any kind of field position difference for this team. Copper is key to that.

Battle hasn't got signficant looks at FB during preseason or TC this year or last. What makes you think he could do it during the regular season.

I do agree it is risky not having 2 centres. My thinking is that Waters could play it in an emergency and we have less O-lineman on the 53 because of their versatility. Most likely scenario is Niswanger makes the team.

I have no problem dropping Richardson and keeping Washington.

Waters moving to center in case of an emergency? Not going to happen. No way, no how. You don't move your LG to Center. Now you have two problems instead of 1. rudy makes the team. I doubt the coaches have even discussed cutting him.

I know this.

That TD catch that he made in the game against the Bucs required concentration, as it traveled through traffic in the front of the end zone.

I actually thought it was thrown to the other receiver in the area... and then I thought it was intercepted. Sort of shocked when I figured out we had a TD. :shrug:

That was what I said in another thread.

In the highlight, it appeared that pass was intended for the receiver in front (who appeared to fall down).

The O-line and the 5th WR spot are two entirely different beasts here. If you're going to take a chance on a flyer, where else but the 5th WR spot. I'm not talking about a team philosphy here, I'm talking about the 4th or 5th WR spot. I'm not talking generalities, I'm talking about one single position.

I agree. Thrown through traffic and it was coming fast. It was a good catch.

I guess my only point is I feel like the sample size is a little small for people to start putting him on the final 53

Again, if the guy you want at that spot is a flyer, he belongs on the practice squad. He's not going to see the field otherwise, in which case his use on the team can be allocated to someone else... like Copper.

Because Copper will contribute to the team a hell of a lot more than Horne will. No one wants to give Copper his dues for the block he laid that sprung Arenas, yet everyone is lining up to suck off Horne for some 6 yard TD catch that any camp fodder could've made.