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'Hamas' Jenkins 10-17-2010 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 7097284)
Dude, I dislike Cassel as much as anybody but he played a great game. Sure he stunk it up on the final drive but you can't really expect any quarterback to drive down the field and score with the amount of time we had to work with. I realize we were playing a bad pass d but come on.
I don't think anyone was expecting us to score a TD on that drive. That said, you don't get easier throws than the two he missed, and missing those did cost us.

We had maybe a 4% chance of a TD in that situation. Missing those two throws took it down to .5%

Again, this game should show you the difference between a game manager and a franchise QB. Cassel managed the hell out of this game, given that he was put in the absolute easiest possible position throughout its entirety. There was one point where he was in a tough spot, and he folded.

DaneMcCloud 10-17-2010 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 7097284)
Dude, I dislike Cassel as much as anybody but he played a great game. Sure he stunk it up on the final drive but you can't really expect any quarterback to drive down the field and score with the amount of time we had to work with. I realize we were playing a bad pass d but come on.
Horne was wide open.

He threw behind Bowe and Moeaki.

If the Chiefs had a competent QB, they would have been in the Red Zone, if not scored the winning TD, when the game ended.

milkman 10-17-2010 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 7097284)
Dude, I dislike Cassel as much as anybody but he played a great game. Sure he stunk it up on the final drive but you can't really expect any quarterback to drive down the field and score with the amount of time we had to work with. I realize we were playing a bad pass d but come on.
The biggest complaint is the third down pass that he missed badly when we needed to run out the clock.

But at the end of the day, this loss falls squarely on a defense that couldn't get the job done.

This will be a problem for this team against teams that has the ability to both run and pass.

Mecca 10-17-2010 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7097282)
We knew Cassel was a hole on this team.

However, this game did not show him as a weakness.

It's becoming a broken record around here. There's a ton of posters (not you Hamas) that only post when Cassel has a shitty play. I rarely see the ones that rag on him post when he's played well. It's like the Mecca rule around here.

Never, ever do I see anything positive regarding the QB.

This game showed that we need a #2 WR, a nose guard, another rush linebacker. We knew we needed a QB a long time ago.

Cassel has his best game, and some want to put some of the blame on him for this one. This offense scored 31 on the road and it was on the defense to hold a lead and they couldn't.
Yea cause you know that's what I said today.

tk13 10-17-2010 03:06 PM
Another thing... we need to be able to line up on offense. There were a few occasions today where Cassel would spend most of the pre-snap directing guys where to go instead of trying to read the defense. We're 6 weeks into the season, we should be better than that.

DeezNutz 10-17-2010 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 7097338)
Another thing... we need to be able to line up on offense. There were a few occasions today where Cassel would spend most of the pre-snap directing guys where to go instead of trying to read the defense. We're 6 weeks into the season, we should be better than that.
This is a good point, and Cassel did a nice job, at times, directing traffic. McCluster, I can understand. Bowe, however, cannot still be having these problems.

Jerm 10-17-2010 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 7097338)
Another thing... we need to be able to line up on offense. There were a few occasions today where Cassel would spend most of the pre-snap directing guys where to go instead of trying to read the defense. We're 6 weeks into the season, we should be better than that.
And it cost us one TO that would've been crucial to have on that last drive.

milkman 10-17-2010 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 7097234)
Is it just me or is that every time we try a hail mary our o-line can't block a 2-3 man rush.
This has been a problem even going back to the days of Vermeil.

It doesn't make sense.

dirk digler 10-17-2010 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7097321)
Horne was wide open.

He threw behind Bowe and Moeaki.

If the Chiefs had a competent QB, they would have been in the Red Zone, if not scored the winning TD, when the game ended.
You're crazy. Just checked we had :22 seconds left with 1 TO and and at the 39 yd line.

OnTheWarpath15 10-17-2010 03:08 PM
Spot on in this thread, Hamas.

Coach 10-17-2010 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 7097351)
And it cost us one TO that would've been crucial to have on that last drive.
Wasn't that the same drive where KC got penalized for delay of game?

JoeyChuckles 10-17-2010 03:09 PM
So what are everyone's thoughts on J-Ville next week?

Coach 10-17-2010 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 7097361)
You're crazy. Just checked we had :22 seconds left with 1 TO and and at the 39 yd line.
But the throw to Horne was a corner route, and if Horne caught that, assuming he's smart, he would had gotten out of bounds. That would have been what, a 15 yard pick up, give or take?

DaneMcCloud 10-17-2010 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 7097361)
You're crazy. Just checked we had :22 seconds left with 1 TO and and at the 39 yd line.
So, you think it's impossible for a QB to throw a 19 yard pass in 22 seconds to get to the Red Zone?

Are you joking or high?

Jerm 10-17-2010 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 7097370)
Wasn't that the same drive where KC got penalized for delay of game?
Yup...it was coming off said TO.


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