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kcpasco

11-14-2010 09:23 PM

Get well soon McGraw

I think we can all agree that Washington is a waste of a roster spot

DaneMcCloud

11-14-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7172986)

It was easily his worst game as a Chief. Carr really struggles with guys who can run good routes.

Is he Brandon Flowers? No.

But to say that he "struggles'" is a stretch. The Broncos are leading the league in passing yardage. Kyle Orton has been deadly accurate and his receivers are running excellent routes.

The safeties sucked ****ing ass today. Pioli had better get good value from the Page trade because it's more than obvious that he would have been an upgrade today.

cdcox

11-14-2010 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7172971)

He's guarding WR2s. Those aren't the guys that demand help.

Here's my opinion:

1. Carr. We have a better CB on the team right now anyway in Arenas. Carr has always been the guy you can beat if you key in on him enough. And every time Carr has faced someone of considerable skill (basically a true WR2 or better) he gets destroyed.

2. Belcher. I'm still holding out faith that this was a solid find and a potential starter. But today he got absolutely abused and made a ton of gap-filling errors. That doesn't erase everything he's done to this point, but it does question whether he's got the head on his shoulders to meet the challenge.

3. TJ is a brokedick.

1. Carr is a serviceable corner, but not as good as some make him out to be. Arenas has better coverage skills but is too small to match up against some of the bigger #2 WRs.

2. Belcher is fine against the run. I'm not going to read too much into any single game performance. Belcher is a complete liability in coverage. He's a 2 down LB against running teams.

3. I'd rest TJ next week. Give his carries to Battle. See if TJ can get some punch back into his legs down the stretch.

tk13	11-14-2010 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7173000)

Dude, if Thomas Jones had legitimately gotten one on one in the open field with a defender and made him miss, I'd have GIF'D it up.

He's a good running back, he's just not special.

I make it a point anymore to not argue people in irrational insanity mode... I'm not spending the night arguing about specific plays. But just a for instance, go back to that last TD he had in the Houston game. I believe it was the last TD... the one where he started one way, juked, cut it back up the middle for a score from 10-15 yards out. That was a great play. He's not nearly as explosive as Charles, but he's still a weapon, and it's ridiculous to be comparing many people to Charles anyway. We're going to need a guy like Jones if we go to an 18 game schedule next year.

doomy3

11-14-2010 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7173000)

Dude, if Thomas Jones had legitimately gotten one on one in the open field with a defender and made him miss, I'd have GIF'D it up.

He's a good running back, he's just not special.

You did. Check the Pollard GIFs.

DaneMcCloud

11-14-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7173000)

Dude, if Thomas Jones had legitimately gotten one on one in the open field with a defender and made him miss, I'd have GIF'D it up.

He's a good running back, he's just not special.

He's extremely valuable to the Chiefs because Charles isn't a 25 carry guy for 16 games. And Jackie Battle is clearly a third stringer.

TJ was the least of the Chiefs worries today.

Hammock Parties

11-14-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 7173031)

You did. Check the Pollard GIFs.

That was more Pollard than Jones. He planted and slid.

The Bad Guy

11-14-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7173025)

He does struggle with great route runners. I know the Broncos have a great passing attack, but he was a step late on everything today. I'm not down on him or anything, and generally corners who face great route runners are going to have difficulty.

Do you think Pioli envisioned his starter and McGraw both going down? I don't. That trade was meaningless today. When anyone starts their 3rd string FS, and then has to go to a PS player, it's going to be ugly.

Shogun

11-14-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 7173027)

1. Carr is a serviceable corner, but not as good as some make him out to be. Arenas has better coverage skills but is too small to match up against some of the bigger #2 WRs.

2. Belcher is fine against the run. I'm not going to read too much into any single game performance. Belcher is a complete liability in coverage. He's a 2 down LB against running teams.

3. I'd rest TJ next week. Give his carries to Battle. See if TJ can get some punch back into his legs down the stretch.

I'm not opposed to trying this.

dirk digler

11-14-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7173025)

Our starting safety and his backup were both out.

MadMax

11-14-2010 09:28 PM

How long has "mighty mouse2" MCluster been broke so far???

DaneMcCloud

11-14-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7173038)

Do you think Pioli envisioned his starter and McGraw both going down? I don't.

I would hope so.

A rookie and a journeyman don't exactly inspire confidence for a 16 games season.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7173038)

That trade was meaningless today. When anyone starts their 3rd string FS, and then has to go to a PS player, it's going to be ugly.

The trade was hardly meaningless today or any other week. Page was a solid starter and there's no doubt the Chiefs would have been in a better (if not much better) position with Berry, Page, Lewis and McGraw.

Lewis has had health issues several times this season and hopefully, he isn't just one of those players.

And yes, I've said all day long that Washington and Price were a recipe for disaster.

DaneMcCloud

11-14-2010 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 7173047)

Our starting safety and his backup were both out.

No shit?

Wow, I had no idea.

:rolleyes:

The Bad Guy

11-14-2010 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7173057)

I would hope so.

A rookie and a journeyman don't exactly inspire confidence for a 16 games season.

The trade was hardly meaningless today or any other week. Page was a solid starter and there's no doubt the Chiefs would have been in a better (if not much better) position with Berry, Page, Lewis and McGraw.

Lewis has had health issues several times this season and hopefully, he isn't just one of those players.

And yes, I've said all day long that Washington and Price were a recipe for disaster.

So we should carry a 5 safeties just in case of injury?

Keeping Page on this team wasn't working. He didn't want to be here, the coaching staff didn't want him.

I just don't see the use lamenting over that trade when the team had depth at the position, it just all crumbled at a bad time.

Titty Meat

11-14-2010 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7173016)

You and your threads are ****ing reeruned.

Belcher didn't have ANY help up the middle. Ron Edwards, after 7 games, was cooked. Toribio wasn't active. Shaun Smith was exhausted. There's no depth on this defensive line.

TJ is FAR from a brokedick.

And right now, in 2010, Carr is a better option than Arenas, but I guess that's difficult for you to understand.

Speaking of wasted 2nd round picks.....

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