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Coogs 01-07-2011 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 7328623)
Honestly, they don't. 9-7 and out of the playoffs would've been very substantial progress.

You've got a young team with a first time playoff HC, first time playoff starting QB, and god-knows how many never-been-there-'afore players. You've got a handful of imported veterans to say "hey, by the way, the intensity REALLY GOES UP in the playoffs. Be READY!!" But until you live it, you can be down 21-zip and getting hammered before you know it.

The Patriots with many young players and a team that wasn't well in-synch got blown out at home during the playoffs by essentially this same Ravens team.

If you're saying "Frauds in terms of being a real, elite level playoff team" then I guess so, but to essentially argue no progress since 2 win and 4 win teams? It's far too late for that. They proved progress by going 10-6. Soft schedule, but it's the only one they had and they handled it better than the other AFCW teams.

All that said, I expect the Chiefs to get blown out, and I expect them to regress to 8-8 or so next year against a tougher sched but heighten their competitiveness after that, assuming solid drafting etc.
This, except for the blown out part Sunday.

I expect a heartbreaking loss... followed up with the 8-8 scenario next season. Then look out.

Norman Einstein 01-07-2011 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 7328534)
Bull
****ing
Shit

Herm Edwards drafted the single worst team in football in terms of players under 30. Not even close. It's not his fault that Roaf, Green, Shields, Kennison, Dante Hall, Surtain, Knight, Wesley/Woods, Priest were all on the way out of the NFL.

It's been well documented that Herm always wanted to rebuild, but Carl Peterson stubbornly insisted that the team reload. That's why we made genius moves like bringing in Ty Law and Damion McIntosh at a time when we needed youth and we were low on cap space.

And it's been well documented that Herm went over Carl's head and got in Clark Hunt's ear, which is the only reason the Chiefs tore the team apart and focused on rebuilding through youth.

Without Herm, Carl Peterson would have tried to win fans back by reloading the team with more versions of Shawn Barber and Dexter McCleon and we would have been content with our 10-6, 1-and-out playoff losers with no Super Bowl potential. Herm Edwards deserves all the credit in the world for giving Pioli a good base to work with.
I don't think I agree with your point. Got any links that backs up you assertions? There are people that have posted that HE did a great job drafting, I don't think he did, but there are those that feel that way.

Norman Einstein 01-07-2011 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ClayWhit (Post 7328573)
They don't need to win.

They need to prove they belong on the same field.
Like you are trying to prove you belong on the same plane as Jason Whitlock?

I think not. The Chiefs have proven all they have to prove, anything more is extra bang for the bucks. They have gone from the basement to the top floor in the division, if you can't be happy with their progress you really need to find another team to write about.

I hear Oakland needs another punching bag for the Tribune.

Hammock Parties 01-07-2011 01:32 PM
The Unknown Player You Need to Know This Week

Ron Edwards, NT, Kansas City (No. 91)

The Ravens are going to run it and then try to run it some more, and the Chiefs' run defense has been lousy over the last five weeks (5.0 yards per rush allowed over the last five games).That puts the pressure at the point of attack, right on the Kansas City nose, a 10-year, 315-pound journeyman (five years in Buffalo, five in K.C.) from Texas A&M. If the Chiefs are going to advance, Edwards has to handle his gaps and stop Ray Rice from getting a head of steam.

jettio 01-07-2011 01:38 PM
The game will measure which team between the Ravens and the Chiefs advances to the next round of the 2010 NFL playoffs.

Pioli is not going to be fired by Clark Hunt even if the Chiefs don't beat an overhyped Ravens team in Ray Lewis's last playoff game.

What a dumb idea to try to write an article that tries to convince people into believing something that even the author does not believe.

Marcellus 01-07-2011 01:42 PM
If Clay isn't getting his sandy vagina pounded on a weekly basis he isn't happy.

Some people are into weird shit.

Hammock Parties 01-07-2011 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jettio (Post 7328916)
Pioli is not going to be fired by Clark Hunt even if the Chiefs don't beat an overhyped Ravens team in Ray Lewis's last playoff game.
No one is suggesting Pioli should be fired.

But if he goes 8-8 in year three as Amnorix suggests is possible...wow, he'd really need to hit a home run in the last two years of his contract.

We haven't even gotten into that. Quite frankly I can't believe anyone would think missing the playoffs next season is acceptable. Pioli is the highest paid GM in football.

Rasputin 01-07-2011 01:48 PM
I'm stoked we get back to the playoffs! Just getting there shows improvement & this gives our young team experience, that can go long ways for our future success regardless of how this game turns out. You can not substitute playoff game experience for any team. Especially on a young team like ours. We made progress to get us in this position. Were not a great team yet, but we are on the upside on getting there. It's next year that we have to continue to make a big leap to the big times.

Getting rid of Carl Peckerlesson & Worm Edwards was the beginning of rebuilding this team. From that point we made progress & now the Ws will start to come as this team develops, we are still a developing team. You can't go from suck to Super Bowl over night, but you can make progress & that's what we have done. 10 & 6 division winners, playoffs > getting top 3 pick in the draft . **** YOU other wise!!!!

Hydrae 01-07-2011 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ClayWhit (Post 7328885)
The Unknown Player You Need to Know This Week

Ron Edwards, NT, Kansas City (No. 91)

The Ravens are going to run it and then try to run it some more, and the Chiefs' run defense has been lousy over the last five weeks (5.0 yards per rush allowed over the last five games).That puts the pressure at the point of attack, right on the Kansas City nose, a 10-year, 315-pound journeyman (five years in Buffalo, five in K.C.) from Texas A&M. If the Chiefs are going to advance, Edwards has to handle his gaps and stop Ray Rice from getting a head of steam.
Wow, he is so unknown he is sharing a jersey number with Hali. ROFL

Coogs 01-07-2011 02:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClayWhit (Post 7328885)
The Unknown Player You Need to Know This Week

Ron Edwards, NT, Kansas City (No. 91)

The Ravens are going to run it and then try to run it some more, and the Chiefs' run defense has been lousy over the last five weeks (5.0 yards per rush allowed over the last five games).That puts the pressure at the point of attack, right on the Kansas City nose, a 10-year, 315-pound journeyman (five years in Buffalo, five in K.C.) from Texas A&M. If the Chiefs are going to advance, Edwards has to handle his gaps and stop Ray Rice from getting a head of steam.
During in that 5 game stretch, we held CJ pretty much in check for the entire game. It is possible we could hold Ray Rice in check as well.

Ming the Merciless 01-07-2011 02:08 PM
I see so if we lose, Pioli and Haley are fail? SO if we win, will you just slither away somewhere and never crawl back out please?

Every ****ign week it is the same garbage.....

How do you regurgitate the same drivel over and over and think it is some kind of pulitzer material?

"If we lose next week , we are frauds"

Herp derp derp

Marcellus 01-07-2011 02:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClayWhit (Post 7328885)
The Unknown Player You Need to Know This Week

Ron Edwards, NT, Kansas City (No. 91)

The Ravens are going to run it and then try to run it some more, and the Chiefs' run defense has been lousy over the last five weeks (5.0 yards per rush allowed over the last five games).That puts the pressure at the point of attack, right on the Kansas City nose, a 10-year, 315-pound journeyman (five years in Buffalo, five in K.C.) from Texas A&M. If the Chiefs are going to advance, Edwards has to handle his gaps and stop Ray Rice from getting a head of steam.
Teh only 2 players that did well in 5 games were KNowshown and Bush.

No other runner broke 4.2ypc or close to 100 yards against KC in that 5 game stretch.

S. Jackson- 3.5ypc
C.Johnson - 4.1
Tolbert- 4.1
Mathews- 4.1

Hammock Parties 01-07-2011 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 7329032)
SO if we win, will you just slither away somewhere and never crawl back out please?
The board deserves it. I may just disappear.

|Zach| 01-07-2011 02:22 PM
This article is hogwash.

WebGem 01-07-2011 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7328313)
The +6 game turnaround from last season and +8 game turnaround from 2 years ago and winning the division doesnt reveal progress?
This. Seriously, lol @ the article title. I didn't even read it.


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