Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7584724)

Did anyone say it was dumb? Don't be such a moron. (Sorry, you are probably a moron resulting from genetical deficiencies and you can't do anything about it other than just be a moron and it's mean to make fun of someone who is like that and can't do anything about it. If your mom drank a shit ton while she is pregnant, the results can hardly be considered your fault. You may just want to limit your participation in discussions and the like so your genetic predisposition towards stupidity doesn't show itself too much.)

The Berry pick was a good pick considering the Chiefs lack of depth and production from the position in 2009. However, safeties are usually considered support players and deemed to be not as high on the positional value scale as left tackles.

However, while Berry quickly established himself as a very good run defender, his pass defense is not good and he was responsible for giving up a number of touchdowns last season.



Put up or shut up. If you are going to criticize someone about their picks, then you should have the balls to make yours known. Otherwise, you come off as a disingenuous one who sucks the penis. And maybe that's just what you are. :shrug:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7584849)

I noticed. It began in 2004 with a rule change and greater emphasis on pass interference rule enforcement that favored the offense.

However, there is no way that a safety is more relevant than an offensive tackle in terms of positional value.



It was better, but still flawed. He even got burned in the Pro Bowl on pass coverage and gave up one to Gonzalez.

And I'm not saying it was a bad pick by any stretch. The Chiefs needed a safety (two) and got good ones in Berry and Lewis.

However, I would have rather have had Okung or Bulaga in the first and then use one of the second rounders we had last year on Nate Allen or TJ Ward rather than McCluster.

But Berry is a good guy and a solid player. And while I would have done it different, it was a good pick for the team.

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7585409)

Berry's pass defense got better all year...picking on him because got torched by some all stars in his first few games is dumb

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7585427)

All sorts of posters on this board were killing Carr in '10, particularly during and after the Denver game when Mike Touchdown Brown ****ing shit himself, thus by extension soiling half the team.

Therefore, I'm not surprised to see people "concerned" about Berry, who will no doubt be a future Pro-Bowler, and likely an All-Pro.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7584849)

I noticed. It began in 2004 with a rule change and greater emphasis on pass interference rule enforcement that favored the offense.

However, there is no way that a safety is more relevant than an offensive tackle in terms of positional value.



It was better, but still flawed. He even got burned in the Pro Bowl on pass coverage and gave up one to Gonzalez.

And I'm not saying it was a bad pick by any stretch. The Chiefs needed a safety (two) and got good ones in Berry and Lewis.

However, I would have rather have had Okung or Bulaga in the first and then use one of the second rounders we had last year on Nate Allen or TJ Ward rather than McCluster.

But Berry is a good guy and a solid player. And while I would have done it different, it was a good pick for the team.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7585621)

He already started in the pro bowl (after everything was said and done)

Welcome to the future!!!

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7585354)

We've had this discussion a hundred times.

Okung is not now, nor has he ever been, as good as you think he is.

Berry is going to be a top 3-top 5 safety, and will have a bigger impact on the defense than Okung on offense.

And Buluaga?

Holy shit.

You're a bigger idiot than I already imagined.

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7586103)

I wish that Saccopoo weren't so Goddamned stupid. He has the makings of a good poster but he can't quite put it together. I mean, HOLY SHIT is his last post in this thread a crock of shit.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7586093)

I'm seriously questioning your ability to imagine anything. I don't think you have a creative, figurative bone in your body.

And, like I said, I would rather have Allen or Ward in the second along with Okung or Bulaga than Berry and McCluster (to go along with the stellar Chiefs OT duo of Albert and Richardson).

TJ Ward:
123 Tackles
2 Ints
10 Passes Def.
1 Forced Fum.

Nate Allen:
48 tackles
2 Sacks
3 Ints
8 Passes Def.
1 Forced Fumbles

Eric Berry:
92 Tackles
2 Sacks
4 Ints
9 Passes Def.
1 Forced Fum.

And you can add Earl Thomas to that list of rookie safeties that had very good years:

Earl Thomas
76 Tackles
5 Ints
7 Passes Def.
1 Forced Fum.

,,,and next year, Morgan Burnett and Chad Jones, who had injuries their rookie years and didn't play, but should be contributors next season. And then you can add Taylor Mays as well.

Berry is going to have to work his ass off to be considered a top three safety in just his draft class, let alone a top three NFL safety.

So, yeah, I'd much rather have a competent offensive tackle along with a safety that mirrored Berry's production than Berry and McCluster (which means that Richardson and Albert are still our kick ass OT's).

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7586113)

unbelievable....you are one dumb piece of shit


i'm now convinced you don't even watch football games

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7583937)

Holy shit.

Get your panties in a knot over minutia in a comparison between two ****ing guys who started their careers at Florida as highly touted prep quarterbacks, who left the program amidst scholastic controversy and who went on to amass huge numbers against shitty DII/Juco competition!!!! What a stretch of a comparison!!!

Oh noes! One guy is 6'5", the other guy is 6'2"!!!!! One guy is a little more accurate than the other!!!! One guy had a higher completion rather versus the other!!!! They are nothing alike!!!!

****ing idiot.

I'm sorry if you got your tampon string wound in the wrong direction Mr. Cecil Newton. I never meant to say that Portis was exactly like your son. I simply inferred that if Portis had another year of eligibility that he might have made an impact at the D1 level. God forbid that I besmirched you son's name and lowered him to Portis' level.

You must come completely unglued when someone mentions that a porpoise and a dolphin are somewhat alike. Or if someone says magenta is a more of a shade of red then a shade of purple.

How does life live on a completely literal level?

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7586113)

unbelievable....you are one dumb piece of shit


i'm now convinced you don't even watch football games