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bowener 06-18-2011 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7704716)
Not if Thannon Tharpe wasn't.

SS: 815 rec/ 10060 yds/ 62 TDs/ 3 Rings

TG: 1069 rec/ 12463 yds/ 88 TDs/ 0 Rings

Based on their personal play alone, TG is more deserving. He also happens to be a better person than Thannon.

Backwards Masking 06-18-2011 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 7704990)
I think not. I don't believe that the HOF Selection Committee will be comfortable saying that Gonzales is unequivocally better than Kellen Winslow, Mike Ditka, or (yes, I understand he is not liked around here) Sharpe. I would also be very surprised if the first person ever to be a first ballot HOFer at his position was a guy with no rings.

Uh, have you ever watched Tony play? There is no question he is an around better tight end than any of the aforementioned. Dude can block, run, catch, is smart as whip and knows the game like the back of his hand. He can also enuncitate, lol.

And who's to say he won't get a ring next year? The Falcons may not have won a playoff game but they did lose the team that DID win it all, plus they were a 13-3 #1 seed. They stand a better chance than most teams.

MagicHef 06-19-2011 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 7704994)
Uh, have you ever watched Tony play? There is no question he is an around better tight end than any of the aforementioned. Dude can block, run, catch, is smart as whip and knows the game like the back of his hand. He can also enuncitate, lol.

And who's to say he won't get a ring next year? The Falcons may not have won a playoff game but they did lose the team that DID win it all, plus they were a 13-3 #1 seed. They stand a better chance than most teams.

Yes, I have watched Gonzales play. I do agree that he should be a first ballot HOFer. I also think that Ditka, Winslow, and Sharpe should have been first ballot HOFers. They were not, and there are reasons for that. I believe that the same reasons will make Gonzales a second ballot HOFer.

If you need more convincing, name all the WRs that have been first ballot HOFers (at least in the modern era). There's one: Jerry Rice. Do you think they are willing to claim that Gonzales and Rice are fairly equal?

007 06-19-2011 12:28 AM

All the love to Randy Moss? I hope he NEVER gets a ring in his life.

boogblaster 06-19-2011 12:33 AM

Tony .. even tho he left us ....

rtmike 06-19-2011 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7704932)
:facepalm:

:LOL:

I heard Tony was pre approved for dual bust-man-ship. ;)

ChiefsCountry 06-19-2011 12:45 AM

Mark Sanchez
Posted via Mobile Device

007 06-19-2011 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7705030)
Mark Sanchez
Posted via Mobile Device

:doh!:

Just Passin' By 06-19-2011 01:40 AM

Randy Moss

Rausch 06-19-2011 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 7704716)
Not if Shannon Sharpe wasn't.

The ONLY area Gonzo hasn't aready passed Sharpe is SB wins.

That's it...

Steron 06-19-2011 07:46 AM

All Time (In no order other than how they came to mind)
Dan Marino
Earl Campbell
Eric Dickerson
OJ Simpson
Dan Fouts
Mike Munchak
Derrick Thomas
Will Shields
Jim Kelly
Thurman Thomas

Current (In no order other than how they came to mind)
Tony Gonzalez
Randy Moss
Terrell Owens
Brian Waters
LaDainian Tomlinson
Brian Urlacher
Larry Fitzgerald
Donovan McNabb
Tony Richardson


I'm sure more will come to mind later.

notorious 06-19-2011 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7704807)
There isn't a single person here that thinks less of Tony than me.

But even I ain't as stupid as you are in my bias.

There's no question Tony gets in first ballot.


The rest of the NFL doesn't think that highly of Tony G.


In the latest NFL Channel top 10 TE's he was 7 or 8.


If he was a former Giant, Cowboy, or Patriot he would be 1.

Over-Head 06-19-2011 07:52 AM

Janikowski,
Say what you will about the Raiders, but you can`t take the guy`s accomplishments away from him.

banyon 06-19-2011 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7705094)
The rest of the NFL doesn't think that highly of Tony G.


In the latest NFL Channel top 10 TE's he was 7 or 8.


If he was a former Giant, Cowboy, or Patriot he would be 1.

NFL Network?

On the Top 100 list of 2011 on NFL Network, the NFL Players had him at #46 (probably the #3 current TE).


http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100-2011

On the All time top 100 list on NFL Network they had him at #45, as the 45th best player of all time, between Mel Blount and Roger Staubach, both Hall of Famers, of course.

http://top100.nfl.com/all-time-100

banyon 06-19-2011 08:03 AM

Good names for today in the thread, I guess it depends if we're talking greatest as a career or best today. If it's the former, I would add Terrell Owens (even though I can't stand him). If it's the latter, then I would add Nmandi Asomoughah (sp.?) and Darelle Revis, and yes, Ndamukong Suh.


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