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FAX 12-13-2011 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 2bikemike (Post 8199107)
There is plenty of blame to go around, and there is a lot of speculation swirling around. But I think Haley did do a good job of coaching up some players and failing on others. Which to me proves the point what works for some doesn't work for others. Haley was unable to adjust.

Weiss was sorely missed this year. He did a much better job of managing Cassel and IMHO play calling. The running off of Weiss is on Haley. There was no effort to replace Weiss with a legitimate OC as Haley thinks he can wear both hats. Clearly he isn't capable of doing that.

Pioli is responsible for aquiring talent. To leave money on the table when there are clearly needs that need to be met is just assinine if you want to contend. We are still dealing with the same holes on the O-line that we have been dealing with since Shields and Roaf got old. We can't develop a decent pass rush with the exception of Hali.

Actually, that's not what is emerging as truth, Mr. 2bikemike. At least, not entirely.

Apparently, Weis and Haley disagreed as to how to properly develop Cassel. Weis then became petulant and told Haley to "do it himself". (By the way, that sounds a heck of a lot like this girl I once knew.) So, the idea that Weis "developed" Cassel is untrue. In fact, it has also been stated that Haley became upset as the media continually credited Weis with Cassel's perceived improvement. You can draw your own conclusions as to which man is the more intense whiny bitch in that respect.

These stories are going to run rampant again, I guess.

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FAX 12-13-2011 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8199049)
They did, but the most important thing is, it didnt translate to WINS.

Also, the offense(what Haley was known for) was a complete failure under him. In 3 seasons the only time it was good and consistent was when Weis was here and really only for about an 8 or 9 game run during the middle of last year.

Cassel isnt a huge talent (thats on Pioli) but other coaches have proven you can get at production out of him at times. Haley never got anything out of him.

I hesitate to disagree with you, Mr. Deberg_1990. I have the highest possible regard for your posting abilities and believe that you are an intelligent, thoughtful person.

Howeve, Cassel is an asswipe. He succeeded only when he was with NE who could recover from his sacks and moronic play due to the team around him and the system he was in. He only succeeded here when he played against other bad teams. Blaming Haley for Cassel is like blaming Jesus for tittah moles. You cannot win games with that moron. It is the reality of the situation.

Anyhow, here's what you said, "Theres (sic) alot of talent on this team. A head coaches job is to analyze the skillsets hes been given and to put those players in positions to succeed. Get maximum effort. For the most part Haley was pretty lousy at that."

I merely stated that Haley did, in fact, coach up and develop several key players on this team and most everybody else improved during his tenure. It is patently unfair to give Haley no credit and all blame. Unfair and nonfactual.

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Bearcat 12-13-2011 11:00 AM

tl;dr:

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Injuries to Jamaal Charles, Eric Berry, Matt Cassel and Tony Moeaki fundamentally changed what the Chiefs are capable of. But they also exposed so many of Pioli’s own shortcomings, and unless he takes this opportunity to stop creating self-assuring excuses to justify his ineffective status-quo style of management, there is no reason to believe the Chiefs can rise above NFL mediocrity.

Rasputin 12-13-2011 11:23 AM

I am sick of the "Patriot way" I am a Chiefs fan not a got damn Patriot fan.

I want the Chiefs to give homage of the great Sitting Bull indian chief that made Custer's last stand. Clark Hunts failure to bring in a GM that does it out of form from there convictions not our or his own convictions to build a championship team. I want the Chiefs to get credit for winning a Super Bowl and not the Patriots getting a piece of it. They had there's to enjoy **** them.

htismaqe 12-13-2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8199512)
I am sick of the "Patriot way" I am a Chiefs fan not a got damn Patriot fan.

I want the Chiefs to give homage of the great Sitting Bull indian chief that made Custer's last stand. Clark Hunts failure to bring in a GM that does it out of form from there convictions not our or his own convictions to build a championship team. I want the Chiefs to get credit for winning a Super Bowl and not the Patriots getting a piece of it. They had there's to enjoy **** them.

Great post.

YourMult 12-13-2011 11:33 AM

I'm tired of the Chiefs repeatedly becoming a vagina-touting version of some other team. The Niners. The Rams. Now the Patriots. I guess we should be happy there isn't isn't a team called the Cumguzzlers, because if there was we would hire their last head coach, and become an even shittier version of the ****ing Cumguzzlers.

How's that for an introductory post?

FAX 12-13-2011 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by YourMom (Post 8199565)
I'm tired of the Chiefs repeatedly becoming a vagina-touting version of the head coach's previous team. The Niners. The Rams. Now the Patriots. Every coach brings over some people they are comfortable with, but this is ridiculous. I guess we should be happy there isn't isn't a team called the Cumguzzlers, because if there was we would hire their last head coach, and become an even shittier version of the ****ing Cumguzzlers.

How's that for an introductory post?

Not bad, Ms. YourMom. Not bad, at all.

I particularly like the use of the term "Cumguzzlers" in the context you chose.

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Sofa King 12-13-2011 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by YourMom (Post 8199565)
I'm tired of the Chiefs repeatedly becoming a vagina-touting version of some other team. The Niners. The Rams. Now the Patriots. I guess we should be happy there isn't isn't a team called the Cumguzzlers, because if there was we would hire their last head coach, and become an even shittier version of the ****ing Cumguzzlers.

How's that for an introductory post?

Interesting. As is your username choice.

FringeNC 12-13-2011 11:57 AM

Suppose the rumors of Pioli undermining Haley are true. Suppose Clark Hunt just found out about them during the exit negotiations with Haley. Might explain why Pioli seemed shell-shocked during the PC.

Rausch 12-13-2011 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 8199642)
Suppose the rumors of Pioli undermining Haley are true.

Wait, wasn't Haley "The Don's" choice?

Haley and Cassel were both big wants for Pioli...

FAX 12-13-2011 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8199651)
Wait, wasn't Haley "The Don's" choice?

Haley and Cassel were both big wants for Pioli...

Which would make his nefarious deeds all the more snarky.

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Bane 12-13-2011 12:03 PM

What did sportscenter just say?They kept Pioli because he was the mastermind behind the SB rings in N.E huh....LMAO stupid mother****ers /BB.

Rausch 12-13-2011 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8199659)
Which would make his nefarious deeds all the more snarky.

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Or he's imperfect and made two REALLY shitty evaluations in year one...

Bowser 12-13-2011 12:06 PM

All you pricks need to shut your traps. We are still mathematically in the playoff race, here. You think that happens by mistake?

FAX 12-13-2011 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8199680)
Or he's imperfect and made two REALLY shitty evaluations in year one...

No evil genius gets it right all the time.

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