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mlyonsd 01-09-2012 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8280030)
(Intense angry stare.)

Jesus, I had to turn around to make sure you weren't standing there.

Say a really good division fights it out to the death and the winner ends up 8-8. That doesn't necessarily mean the division sucks. Plus there are plenty of crappy teams that make the playoffs at 10-6 (2010 Chiefs).

Also I don't see much reason for having divisions in your scenario. Just AFC/NFC conferences would do.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-09-2012 04:13 PM

No. It's perfectly fine the way it is...so they'll probably change it.

Deberg_1990 01-09-2012 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8280054)
It was brought to light that year. Chiefs have pushed for it for years. Lamar wanted 7 teams in each conference making the playoffs. His reasoning was:
A) Made being #1 seed more important, since they would be the only one getting a bye in each conference
B) Gives the fans 2 extra games on wildcard weekend
C) More revenue through tv and ticket sales

There's been some talking of adding a couple more playoff teams to the mix. It will probably happen eventually.

chiefqueen 01-09-2012 05:58 PM

IMO the team with a better record than a playoff team that either is missing the playoffs (Titans) or has to go on the road should have a choice of staying put and retaining their draft picks or giving the playoff team some of their draft picks and assume their spot.

For example, let's Tenn could assume Denver's spot if they gave Denver their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks this year (maybe not that much but a significant COST needs to be involved) OR

In the Pittsburgh scenerio give the Steelers the option of sacrificing the first 2 draft picks to DEN for the right to host the game.

Possible rules under this systems

The option SOLELY rests with the team having the better record getting screwed (for example Denver could not give up its playoff spor to get the picks)

Decisions must be made prior to week 17 games.

L.A. Chieffan 01-09-2012 05:59 PM

what if the division a team plays in is especially tough and because of that they have a less than sparkling record

Backwards Masking 01-09-2012 06:03 PM

meh, they should have thought of this when they added two divisions. the second they change it to prevent a 8-8 division winner from playing at home they'll wind up having a 8-8 wildcard playing at home (against a 7-9 division winner prolly) and we'll have to have the discussion All Over Again.

it is what is.

chiefqueen 01-09-2012 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8280468)
what if the division a team plays in is especially tough and because of that they have a less than sparkling record

My definition of a tough division is where 2+ teams have 10+ wins and the 3rd place team usually has a pretty good record also (think AFC North). A division that sees its top 3 teams finish 8-8 is not a tough division.

Phobia 01-09-2012 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8280030)
(Intense angry stare.)

Ooooh. Served.

Backwards Masking 01-09-2012 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefqueen (Post 8280577)
My definition of a tough division is where 2+ teams have 10+ wins and the 3rd place team usually has a pretty good record also (think AFC North). A division that sees its top 3 teams finish 8-8 is not a tough division.

better than top 3 teams finishing 7-9 or worse like the NFC West last year.

Not disagreeing our division sucked ball This Year though.

Phobia 01-09-2012 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefqueen (Post 8280463)
IMO the team with a better record than a playoff team that either is missing the playoffs (Titans) or has to go on the road should have a choice of staying put and retaining their draft picks or giving the playoff team some of their draft picks and assume their spot.

For example, let's Tenn could assume Denver's spot if they gave Denver their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks this year (maybe not that much but a significant COST needs to be involved) OR

In the Pittsburgh scenerio give the Steelers the option of sacrificing the first 2 draft picks to DEN for the right to host the game.

Possible rules under this systems

The option SOLELY rests with the team having the better record getting screwed (for example Denver could not give up its playoff spor to get the picks)

Decisions must be made prior to week 17 games.

What??????????????????

Titty Meat 01-09-2012 06:37 PM

No.

Mojo Jojo 01-09-2012 06:38 PM

Why should you change it? The Ravens won the Super Bowl playing three on the road...The Chiefs won the Super Bowl playing two on the road. Good teams that play well can win on the road...home teams the under perform lose at home. That's why you play the game...

mlyonsd 01-09-2012 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8280604)
Ooooh. Served.

Yeah I'm wondering if anyone else here has ever gotten the "Intense angry stare" from Rain Man.

Ming the Merciless 01-09-2012 06:57 PM

No...

It is fair this way...its a practically perfect system...dont **** with it unless you NEED to.

Extra Point 01-09-2012 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kraus (Post 8279299)
No. Steelers lost because they played like shit. Don't make excuses for them. Same for the Saints last year.

This. It's called winning the division. Did the Steelers win theirs?


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