Alex Smith and Joe Flacco are average QBs playing for outstanding defensive teams. I don't care what their draft position is.

Both are on run 1st pass 2nd teams as well

You're wrong you have to have an elite QB to get to the superbowl,

Like Joe Flacco Or Eli Manning

LOL

/cp

Yup.

For the record, the majority of the time in this modern NFL, the passing team will win out. But in this particular playoff, defense/running is king. Apart from Brady, every team has been KO'ed. People who want to say otherwise are fooling themselves.

That being said, I don't think there's any way that the QBs don't win out on this one. Eli and Brady are two terrific QBs, and I think they make the difference next week.

and?

tim tebow had 31 yards per completion or something redonkulous in the Pitt game...

Stats can be misleading.....I really don't think Eli is an elite QB like his bro, but shit I could be wrong.

Eli is good...not elite but good.

They just showed the first TD Eli through...was a 66 yarder....15 yard pass, two missed tackles and the WR runs 50 yards for the score. I'd take but as you say, stats can be slightly misleading

So what does Eli have to do to become Elite?

If he were to win a SB this year he would have 2, which is one more than his brother who you all say is elite.

He coudl possibly have two SB rings, beating Tom Brady both times.

IMO he's elite.

Denver's D really isn't that good, expecially with a gimpy Von Miller. I guess I'll concede they are a defensive team though with how horrific thier offense is.

I think elite gets used a little loosely. An elite Qb doesn't put up 10 and 14 points to WASH twice in the same year. You saw the list I made of Brees, Rodgers and Brady, right? Those teams scored over 30 points in over half of their games. None of them with what you would call great defenses or great running games even. That is what elite QB's do though. They put the offense in position to put points on the board, a lot. Even if Eli won a 2nd SB I wouldn't put him in the elite category. He is a very good QB but I wouldn't label him elite.

Eli Manning makes big plays in big games hence being called an elite QB. I'm not going to argue with anyone about that especially after today's game.

I suppose that all boils down to how you define Elite....by that definition he would be a better QB than Marino....

So I don't think for me that the rings are the sole definition of an elite QB.

But I guess everyone has their own definition of elite.

Brees couldn't outscore the Rams this year and lost to the Bucs.

Rodgers put up what 14 against the Chiefs this year.

I think you are a little tough on Eli, but I do get where you are coming from.

Eli is a good QB, but I agree the term Elite is thrown around too much, he is a great QB but from what I have seen and going by stats, I can't call him elite.

I guess if he wins the SB , and does friggin awesome the next 2 games, I can always change my mind?