Here's a possible scenario that Chiefs fans seem to not want to consider: What if Pioli DOES see it? We all know that has no real loyalty to anyone. We as fans are constantly bringing up how he'll hang anyone out to dry or throw anyone under the bus to save his ass (i.e. Arrowhead Anxiety article, Haley's in-season firing...) Why are we so sure he's up Cassel's ass so far? Because he's said so?

Look at some of the things this guy has said about his relationship with Haley, right before firing him unceremoniously. Pioli is a save face first kind of guy. He's not gonna come out and say, "Cassel is not the answer. We're just keeping him around until we can replace him with someone that can help us win a title." Even if that's exactly what he's thinking.

He wouldn't let his staff come out and say it either. Basically, what I'm saying is that we the fans aren't going to know of any major changes until they happen. Pioli is a very smoke-and-mirrors kind of guy, so I'm not buying that he's so in love with a QB that he has to see as someone who could potentially drag him out of his job.

I certainly see the logic of that and do certainly hope that happens. I have said it before, this is the offseason that Pioli either saves his rep in my mind or he loses my support for good. This is the offseason, out of all others, that making a QB change is most clear.

My negativity is more from my gut feeling that its not going to change. Yes in some ways I have the attitude of a negative Chiefs fan, but in certain years I have been positive(and proven wrong eventually). I am just negative right now more from what I have seen and my gut feeling. Like I said I understand that line of thought, and this is the offseason where Pioli needs to make the right moves. We are at a huge crossroad in this organization right now.

I can certainly understand that. It always seems to be more of the same from this team, no matter who the coaching staff is. Run on first, run on second, pass on third, punt on fourth. Play defense, get a stop on first and second down, then give up a medium to big play on third and eventually get blown out.

Also, Trent Green is the best QB the Chiefs have had in almost 20 years. Longer if you don't count Joe Montana's ghost. There is always a rumor that the Chiefs are going to make a move for a certain guy, or that they are going to make a change at a position, or that they are going to really get production out of a young prospect, but none of these things ever seem to pan out.

I won't deny that it's been hard to be a Chiefs fan, but 2010 made it all worth it again. This team has undeniable talent and potential. I'm not going to let one ant (Cassel) spoil my picnic, no matter how much of a nuisance that ant may be.

You see, I'm a very optimistic fan.

good post man, glad you came aboard. :thumb:

Thank you my good man. I came on awhile ago, but I stopped coming around for awhile. I'm back though.

:thumb:

People having intelligent football conversations on CP? 2012 really must be the end of the world.

Ha. Is that not normal? I know there is an overwhelming amount of lolCassel and whatnot...

I have confidence that [REC] will zoom out away from the front office drama and find us a solid coordinator.

Hang around for a couple of days, and we can cure that problem for you.

No shit.

I used to be the President of the Apologist's Club according to some here.

ROFL

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Keep an eye on Pep Hamilton. He was under consideration with Saban for the Bama OC job with little schottenheimer before Doug Nuiesmeir got it.

He's been a lower level guy that has worked his way up on the offensive side of the ball. O quality controll to qb's and now qb/OC at stanford. It would be a suprise move but i'ts possible. I think Hamilton coached with Crennell at the east west shrine game before he became the DC in KC, before the 2010 season. I'd hope Zorn would be around as a vet coach on O he could lean on.

Mike Sherman i could see if they would move the qb (i'd take orton over cassel anyday) and run more of a west coast mix to what they already run. I think with Orton in the last 3 games Zorn had a heavy influence on the passing attack.

Otherwise Daball as oc and probably Karl Dorrell as WR's coach when Miami get's things settled if the go the tree route.

I'd like to see Hue Jackson from what's left. Darkhorse is CFL HC Marc Trestman.

Thought of Pete Manguarian(ex Patriot) but he got the Cornell Job after being OL coach with the bucs this year.

Jeff Davidson with Zorn as qbcoach/pass game co would be what they are looking for.

It's possible they lose Gary Gibbs if Mike Zimmer get's a HC job. Zimmer's boy Adam is Gibb's assitatn at LB coach and he's a young buck they give more responsibility too and would be nice to retain and continue to groom him.

I think they could take a run at Marty's boy as OC too. Just some hunch for no good reason.

Pepper Johnson's best shot to have more responsibility would be under Romeo. I know he still will call plays but it would open up the shot Pepper could call plays down the road. That's about the only current NE coach i could see coming to KC.

Need to find a damn good OL coach out there and i have no idea who is available.

Been a few months, hope everyone is well and healthy!

wonder what happened to jeremy bates last year? He may be to big of a hot head to work with Casshole.

Depends on what happens in Indy but Clyde Christenson is intriging besides last year of course without Peyton. He is OC currently and would have to get out of his contract if they hire a new HC that doesn't want him. I think he has potential and the thought of a 3 WR set of Bowe Breaston and Baldwin starting with Charles as a Single back would have potential...Depending on the QB

Haley's protege Nick Sirianni is still an unknown if he can coach. He was being groomed to take over WR's or QB's someday.

Caldwell is coming back.