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The Bad Guy 01-16-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8303073)
I don't think Williams is a bad hire. I don't think Fisher's a good hire and think Brian Schottenheimer is a horrible hire. I'm beyond glad this isn't our coaching staff.

How is Williams not a bad hire?

The guy has an inflated rep because he blitzes a lot. His schemes suck.

Did you not watch last Saturday's game?

He's Gunther Cunningham. Bring a ton of pressure, but fail to adjust.

Saints fans are having a party that's he's gone.

The Bad Guy 01-16-2012 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 8303146)
Yes, Williams is a terrible DC.

/Kneejerk planet.

I guess Lebeau is a shitty DC too because his gameplan against the Broncos was shit.

Let me know when a LeBeau defense finishes in the bottom third in the league in yards allowed.

Titty Meat 01-16-2012 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8303282)
How is Williams not a bad hire?

The guy has an inflated rep because he blitzes a lot. His schemes suck.

Did you not watch last Saturday's game?

He's Gunther Cunningham. Bring a ton of pressure, but fail to adjust.

Saints fans are having a party that's he's gone.

No way he's great. It was brilliant to put the slowest safety in the league on Vernon Davis.

BossChief 01-16-2012 05:50 PM

He just sent a text to Darren Sharper

"thanks again!"

Pasta Little Brioni 01-16-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8303316)
He just sent a text to Darren Shawpah

" you da hardest hitting safety in da league!"

FYP

WhiteWhale 01-16-2012 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8303286)
Let me know when a LeBeau defense finishes in the bottom third in the league in yards allowed.

Okay

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/cin/1997.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/cin/1998.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/cin/1999.htm

Who was their defensive coordinator?

Talent > Scheme

The Bad Guy 01-16-2012 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 8303678)

Nice digging of stats from 13 years ago.

So you're saying that Williams doesn't have talent?

Did not having talent force him to play man to man coverage with a safety on just about the only deep receiving threat the 49ers have?

Williams has plenty of talent on that Saints defense.

WhiteWhale 01-16-2012 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8303683)
Nice digging of stats from 13 years ago.

So you're saying that Williams doesn't have talent?

Did not having talent force him to play man to man coverage with a safety on just about the only deep receiving threat the 49ers have?

Williams has plenty of talent on that Saints defense.

By all means, name me one elite game-changing player on the Saints defense, and I'll shut up. KC has more game changers than the Saints.

The best player they have is Vilma, and I don't think he's even top 10 at his position.

The Steelers have at least two guys who are arguably THE BEST in the NFL at their position.

One is not like the other.

Lebeau is successful when working with exceptional players. So is Williams.

Both have failed with average to below average talent.

These are the facts. Except my personal opinion on Vilma, which I do believe is correct. You are free to disagree.

MOhillbilly 01-17-2012 12:59 PM

I've heard so much in the past 20+ years it just doesn't phase me when people express opinions on Gdub.

-King- 01-17-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Doctor10 (Post 8303205)
Williams won said Super Bowl. And his defense was a major reason the Saints were able to take the final step.

Caldwell won a superbowl in the 2006 season.

Hammock Parties 01-17-2012 01:42 PM

Hire a quality coach, and quality coaches follow.

Funny how that works.

Hammock Parties 01-17-2012 01:46 PM

Williams as Titans DC: 12, 12, 15, 2

Williams as Skins DC: 5, 9, 27, 11

Williams as Saints DC: 20, 7, 13

He's Mike ****ing Ditka compared to guys like Gunther and Pendergast.

Two bad seasons out of 11.


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