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Donger 02-28-2012 06:23 PM

Is it known that there will be a QB comparable to Luck or RGIII in next year's draft (or the next year) at this point?

DeezNutz 02-28-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 8405908)
Is it known that there will be a QB comparable to Luck or RGIII in next year's draft (or the next year) at this point?

Barkley is the top prospect for '13. Not at Luck's standard. Totally different player from RGIII.

O.city 02-28-2012 06:27 PM

Say we gave up what ever we had to give up to get this guy 3 years ago.


Over the last three years our first rounders have been Jackson, Berry, and Baldwin. We just won 7 games without Berry and with a part or less time Baldwin. Jackson had a good year but he wasn't an all pro.

Now, say you put RGIII on this team last year. If he is what they think he is or think he will be, what would the Chiefs record have been?

At this point, where the Chiefs are on both sides of the ball, where do we need to focus our drafting? We could essentially get what we need, (depth) if we were or are smart about 3 and later round picks, that we could potentially keep.

Also something to think about is that if we did trade up and give up a ton, those draft picks wouldn't have to be paid. That could give us money to keep our own guys.


I dunno, I don't think it's smart to be giving up all those picks, but if they did, you won't hear a complaint from me.

TRR 02-28-2012 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8405904)
You're putting arbitrary distinctions on the value, much like posters who claim that, essentially, trading away a draft could set a franchise back "six years." Not five, not seven. Six.

The math is hard and fast on this fact.

If you can acquire a true franchise QB, there's damn near no price too steep. And this price sure as **** isn't one single draft, though I know we'd desperately miss all of the McClusters and Arenaseseses of the world.

It's a BIG "IF."
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The Franchise 02-28-2012 06:30 PM

If RGIII gets us to the playoffs (or close)...our 1st round pick next year will be worth dick.

I would give up our 1st and 2nd picks this year and our 1st next year to get RGIII.

DeezNutz 02-28-2012 06:32 PM

If you sit back and think about it, where would this franchise be without Tyson Jackson and the (CP) all-world production from Baldwin, who, apparently, registered the most impressive 21-catch season in NFL ****ing history.

Bowe (and his 70 reception rookie year and consistent production)? Shit. Baldwin? Money.

Get the franchise QB. Worry about the details later.

The Franchise 02-28-2012 06:34 PM

Sign Paul Soliai in FA.
Trade up RGIII.
Grab a RT in the 3rd round.

Epic Fail 007 02-28-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8405701)
NO way Pioli gives up the draft for one guy. No matter how good he potentially could be.

Nore should he thats completely stupid and immature thinking.

Urc Burry 02-28-2012 06:37 PM

We have enough cap space to compensate for losing some draft picks

The Franchise 02-28-2012 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by eric007 (Post 8405939)
Nore should he thats completely stupid and immature thinking.

http://ph.cdn.photos.upi.com/collect...-Arizona_2.jpg

ToxSocks 02-28-2012 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8405928)
Get the franchise QB. Worry about the details later.

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Okie_Apparition 02-28-2012 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 8405778)
No team has ever traded that much for a quarterback and gone on to win two Super Bowls with that quarterback as the Super Bowl MVP in each of them.

They had Philip RIvers
I'm not convinced they wouldn't have been better off keeping him & the draft picks
or maybe that should be no worse off..

chiefzilla1501 02-28-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8405928)
If you sit back and think about it, where would this franchise be without Tyson Jackson and the (CP) all-world production from Baldwin, who, apparently, registered the most impressive 21-catch season in NFL ****ing history.

Bowe (and his 70 reception rookie year and consistent production)? Shit. Baldwin? Money.

Get the franchise QB. Worry about the details later.

That's not a perfect example because based on what we've seen from Tyson Jackson and what we've seen from Mark Sanchez, it's starting to look like the Chiefs made out better. Jackson is a very good player who will be starting for the Chiefs 3 years from now. It's possible Sanchez in 3 years will either be a bench player or a QB who holds you back from doing the things you want to do. As for Baldwin... well, now you're getting into the argument about whether we need to get a top 5 QB or if we could just wait for an Andy Dalton type QB to come around.

Okie_Apparition 02-28-2012 06:51 PM

Eli or keep Rivers next years 1st & whatever pick they took Keading with

DeezNutz 02-28-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8405967)
That's not a perfect example because based on what we've seen from Tyson Jackson and what we've seen from Mark Sanchez, it's starting to look like the Chiefs made out better. Jackson is a very good player who will be starting for the Chiefs 3 years from now. It's possible Sanchez in 3 years will either be a bench player or a QB who holds you back from doing the things you want to do. As for Baldwin... well, now you're getting into the argument about whether we need to get a top 5 QB or if we could just wait for an Andy Dalton type QB to come around.

No idea how that relates to Baldwin, who has shown precious little in KC, other than a great catch that was called back.

As for Jackson/Sanchez, it could be that TJ ends up being the better of these two. However, once Pioli made the move to Cassel, I think the selection should have been Raji, and it should have been a no-brainer.


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