20 Million over. Especially when you have nothing to show for it.

Try not to be this stupid.

Damn right, yall really showed them Raiders... Man had been on the team for 5 days and knew 15 plays and thats all you all have to hang your hat on? Pretty damn funny actually.

You don't have anything to show for your 60 million over either because the trailer park dwellers fill the stands every week regardless... Enjoy AFCW Hell LMAO

Dennis Allen.

A team full of young inexpensive players is going to be much cheaper than a team of overpaid retreads.

Every year is the same for you guys, You get a couple of scrubs added to your team , win a few games, the trailer parks get excited and then every year you fail, always lose in the playoffs, (even at home).

You folks are the proudest losers I have ever seen in my life, I love to watch the dagger stabbed in your little red and yellow hearts each year.

You could be good but they will never spend the money in KC to be nothing more than competitive.

It's not 60 million, it's closer to 38 million due to bonuses and shit not figured in to the total yet.

I'd rather be in our position than yours. Cahson Palmah won't have much of a team to work with next year after they cut everyone just to get under the cap.

Hows that theory worked out for you? When was the last time you won a playoff game? yall do the same shit every year and every year you have the same result...

Honestly, the Raiders are currently stuck in purgatory. Their team as they've built it can't get over the hump. They're also unable to draft and unable to sign anyone. They should gut the team and start over fresh with this new GM.

They won't do that, of course, so we can expect another few seasons of futility before they begin to be competitive.

Of course, that's what we said 5 years ago too LMAO

Try to spin it all you want, you damn well know you would rather be in KC's situation than the complete and total disaster you have on your hands right now.

Oakland is arguably in the worst shape in the NFL from a talent, draft pick, and salary cap situation. What do you have going for you? A first time head coach?

Its awesome. Pure awesome.

I'm not the one who posted a highlight video with those plays in it. You are. Which means you must consider those highlights.

I wouldn't want to be a fan of a team that didn't invest in it...

You guys are suckers... They put you guys a piss poor product on the field every year and you guys are on it like a fat kid on a doughnut.

60 million under, with under being the key word. Only shitty franchises allow themselves to be in the position the Raiders are in.. And we just won the division 2 years ago when we were 30 million under.

At least you have to release your young players because of the cap. Too bad these old ass veterans you keep pumping money into won't be around when you rebuild through the draft.

Wait a second, you don't have any draft picks. Nevermind. Nothing to see here.

SK I Know you guys are hurting and grasping at any little thing that will make you feel good about a team that thinks a QB like Matt Cassell and Kyle Orton are quality NFL QB's. I hope they continue to do it this way forever because it never works and it gives me more ammo every year that goes by.

40 years and you are STILL light years away from even competing in a SB much less winning one.

It's funny. I know a Washington Redskins fan, and he's completely honest about their trainwreck of a franchise. He knows that their Super Bowls from the 80s don't mean jack shit right now in terms of getting out of this hole they're in, and that some big changes are going to have to be made. He's honest with himself and acknowledges that it will be tough. He's not optimistic for the near future at all, and that's even with the Redskins having some money and a complete set of draft picks and a chance to draft a franchise QB.

You talk to a Raiders fan, whose team is in a far worse situation, and he goes Baghdad Bob on your ass.

Maybe funny isn't the right word. Depressing is more like it.