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RealSNR 03-08-2012 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 8429228)
There's nothing that Baldwin has done to warrant that yet...and I'm not saying their 3X better at WR, but I do give them the edge.

Potential wise, sure .. they have the potential to be the best in the league, but they're not yet. Miami WRs aren't the best in the league.

I'm just judging them as they are now.
Breaston > Bess and Hartline combined, dude. What have we ever seen from those turds that makes you think they're better than what Baldwin could be, even if he busts? Do you think Manning will look at those guys and say, "Sweet, a couple of Blair Whites! That's just what I've always wanted! I loved that 2010 cluster**** year so much!"

Buckweath 03-08-2012 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 8429228)
There's nothing that Baldwin has done to warrant that yet...and I'm not saying their 3X better at WR, but I do give them the edge.

Potential wise, sure .. they have the potential to be the best in the league, but they're not yet. Miami WRs aren't the best in the league.

I'm just judging them as they are now.
Jamaal Charles, if he hasn't lost a step after his injury, with any decent power RB is clearly better than any combination of RBs Miami has to offer.

Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston and Moeaki IMO form a receiving corps who has the potential to be top 5-10 in this league as soon as this year.

I`m one of those Chiefs fans who think this team is truly a top QB away (and slightly improving the Oline) from contending for the Superbowl.

RealSNR 03-08-2012 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8429254)
The point is that the Texans didn't fall apart when going to their 5th round QB, or Johnson missing half the season, or Foster 3 games, etc. Why -talent and coaching. KC fell apart and was wildly inconsistent all year. KC doesn't have the talent people thinks it does. The majority of CPers think the Chiefs are heads and tails better than the team that beat them by 20+ points last year.
Where would you improve the talent apart from the offensive line? We could use another RB to share carries with Charles, another TE to wash out the Becht/O'Connell turds... what? Where else are we supposed to improve?

Did it occur to you that the Texans didn't fall apart with their 5th round QB because their 5th round QB was better than Cassel and Palko?

Also, you're putting talent/coaching as equals. In this case, they're not. Kansas City's offensive coaching was an absolute abortion. Far worse than the talent minus Charles and Moeaki. You're acting like talent and coaching work in tandem when a team does poorly. In this case, you're dead wrong.

Halfcan 03-08-2012 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 8429004)
they have a franchise LT and a stud WR. not much else...
this

mcaj22 03-08-2012 02:14 PM
the reason the Chiefs offensive weapons get no love is because of the shit QB play the last 5 years. That's the problem.

Marshall and Bush are flashy names, that's why they are better by the media. Nobody cares about Charles because the guy is coming off season ending injury and I'd be surprised if Moeaki ever plays a full NFL season in his career.

Epic Fail 007 03-08-2012 02:28 PM
If it was back when we sign montana yes we did not have many weapons. They did not give him much help. But now we have way better than miami. Just espn,national media hate kc always have.

Epic Fail 007 03-08-2012 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8429303)
the reason the Chiefs offensive weapons get no love is because of the shit QB play the last 5 years. That's the problem.

Marshall and Bush are flashy names, that's why they are better by the media. Nobody cares about Charles because the guy is coming off season ending injury and I'd be surprised if Moeaki ever plays a full NFL season in his career.
Oh yes miami has had much better qb play. Come on now. Lame argument.

whoman69 03-08-2012 03:44 PM
I don't think enough has been made of possible changes to the Dolphins defense, plus they will lose some of their players.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-08-2012 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 8428996)
Yes, as a whole... gimme the Dolphins RB/WR/TE group over KC.
You are nuts dude ROFL

Hammock Parties 03-08-2012 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 8428996)
Yes, as a whole... gimme the Dolphins RB/WR/TE group over KC.
Bowe = Marshall

Moeaki > their tight ends

Charles > Bush

Breaston > Bess

Baldwin > Miami scrub

Sorry, it's not close.

SPATCH 03-08-2012 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8429303)
the reason the Chiefs offensive weapons get no love is because of the shit QB play the last 5 years. That's the problem.

Marshall and Bush are flashy names, that's why they are better by the media. Nobody cares about Charles because the guy is coming off season ending injury and I'd be surprised if Moeaki ever plays a full NFL season in his career.
Didn't he already do this?

mcaj22 03-08-2012 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by the_spatula (Post 8429831)
Didn't he already do this?


nope, lol

Pasta Little Brioni 03-08-2012 04:01 PM
I'd take Charles over all thier skill players combined.

Frankie 03-08-2012 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 8428995)
The Chiefs have had a terrible team since.... '03? and have nothing to show for themselves since.... '93?

There is a reason the media ignores this franchise.
And how have the Dolphins done during that period of time?

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8429026)
I think the two teams are similar.

But as far as the media goes, they're always going to go with star power, and Marshall is a bigger star than Bowe, and Bush is a bigger star than Charles.

So when these talking heads yap, that's what they're considering and not much else.

Defensively, they're not even comparable, especially once we add in a healthy Eric Berry.
And Soliai.

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Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 8429073)
And let's not forget what Miami did to us on both sides of the ball last year.
Yeah but we now have their OC. :p

aturnis 03-08-2012 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8429063)
I disagree that the team as good as people think. Look at the Texans. They suffered huge injuries and didn't go into the crapper like KC. Teams that have talent can adjust.
Yates > > > Cassel > > > Palko


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