Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8742852)

Renovation only killed the club level.

Originally Posted by Trivers (Post 8742869)

They did that in Green Bay. TOTALLY ruins the experience. Might as well as stay home and watch on big screen.

Originally Posted by Canofbier (Post 8742482)

We were technically last place last year, but it's not nearly the same magnitude of "last place" as the first time. We were as close as making one of two blocked field goals in that horrible game against the Raiders to winning the division for a second consecutive year.

Our team may not be a perennial contender yet, but you can see the progress. Our team was pretty awful when he came aboard, and talent and depth at every position has improved since he arrived (even at QB, arguably). He demonstrated this offseason that he's able to land top-flight free agents (Winston).

Obviously, he's made some mistakes (Cassel's massive contract being the one that stands out the most), but who would we hire when he's gone who would do better? Last year was almost undoubtedly a playoff year before the injuries (and almost was despite them). I expect the Chiefs to do better this year, but suppose they finish 10-6 and miss the playoffs? That's certainly possible, but it's not worth firing Pioli over. If we lay down a massive turd of a season (say, 4-12 or something), then there's more reason to fire him.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8742895)

Pioli has taken on a rebuilding project that involves doing it the old fashioned way.

Through the draft.

That takes time.

The problem, aside from the most obvious, is that the foundation of that project was drafted by the previous regime.

We've already lost one piece of that foundation in Carr, and Bowe might well be the next piece.

I still contend that his 2010 draft was not nearly the great draft that others seem to believe it to be.

Dexter McCluster is just a guy, and Javier Arenas is a great 4th round pick, that we took in the second round.

I also still contend that this team would be further along if Bill KuHarich had been promoted to the GM spot, and Herman ****ing Edwards had been replaced with Ron Rivera, who I wanted the most at that time, or Jim Swartz.

Of course, that would not have happened, given Clark Hunt's affinity for Herman ****ing Edwards.

So at the end of the day, the man most responsible for all this shit is Hunt, as has been the case for the last 40 years.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8742895)

So at the end of the day, the man most responsible for all this shit is Hunt, as has been the case for the last 40 years.

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8742899)

Would you fire Pioli and lure a guy like Andy Reid who will be fired after this year?

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8742908)

Andy Reid will never be fired

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8742913)

Which is amazing considering its phickle Philly phans.

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8742864)

Win a couple games in a row and everybody will be on Cassells sack like a fat kid on a jelly doughnut. Then the cycle resets again.

Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 8742924)

It would take at least one playoff win with Cassel performing well. Don't hold your breath.