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Tribal Warfare 09-10-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8898117)
A couple pressures and a sack against an all pro right tackle is a good performance IMO.

yep, if he keeps that up he''ll have a 12 sacks or more stat line.

BoneKrusher 09-10-2012 12:09 PM

he went the wrong way with halftime adjustments.

keg in kc 09-10-2012 01:14 PM

My only problem was with playcalling in a few situations, they seemed to want to be a little too cute a few times and it burned us, and we seem to always want to run on 1st down.

I know the wheels came off for a time in the 2nd half, but at the end of the day they scored 24 points, with a missed field goal, and for 75% of the game Cassel looked better than I think I've ever seen him play before. Which to me makes Daboll some kind of freaking miracle worker. And this was just the first game.

Tombstone RJ 09-10-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8897509)
Who said Daboll didn't adjust?

Hell, why did he NEED to adjust?

That was the best half of offensive football since the day Pioli arrived FFS...

this. Pretty sure it was Crennel's defense that needed to adjust.

WhiteWhale 09-10-2012 03:26 PM

I'm just gonna say it...

Anyone who expected our defense to stop or even slow down Atlanta's passing attack with the best 1-2 WR punch in the game and a HOF TE without the heart and soul of our defense, who also happens to be a pass rusher, and our top cover man is a ****ing IDIOT.

This game was going to be a shoot-out. The team who makes the most mistakes will lose. KC missed a FG, fumbled, threw an INT, then threw another INT.

4 consecutive mistakes. The defense wasn't going to stop that team with those match-up advantages. Any expectation that they would with Studebaker and Reeves replacing two top tier players is really naive. It's disappointing we've invested so little in guys who can rush the QB since Pioli arrived (only Houston really), but we have who we have.

Mr. Laz 09-10-2012 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 8898790)
I'm just gonna say it...

Anyone who expected our defense to stop or even slow down Atlanta's passing attack with the best 1-2 WR punch in the game and a HOF TE without the heart and soul of our defense, who also happens to be a pass rusher, and our top cover man is a ****ing IDIOT.

This game was going to be a shoot-out. The team who makes the most mistakes will lose. KC missed a FG, fumbled, threw an INT, then threw another INT.

4 consecutive mistakes. The defense wasn't going to stop that team with those match-up advantages. Any expectation that they would with Studebaker and Reeves replacing two top tier players is really naive. It's disappointing we've invested so little in guys who can rush the QB since Pioli arrived (only Houston really), but we have who we have.

well then our defense isn't even close to good enough

WhiteWhale 09-10-2012 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8898824)
well then our defense isn't even close to good enough

It can be good at 100%, but we're too paper thin at the most vital role of a defense (pass rusher) to handle injuries or any situation where they're not there. Do we expect the offense to be just as good without Jamaal Charles? I'd think last season would have taught us that lesson.

It's the way Pioli has done it. He's invested entirely into run stuffers, and drafted ONE pass rusher. Two if you count Sheffield, but I don't.

We replaced Tamba Hali and Brandon Flowers with Andy Studebaker and Jacque Reeves... or something. I really don't care how to spell his name. I just know that both guys pretty much suck in any scheme you have.

I'm more worried about how mentally weak this team seems to be. They just fall apart as soon as things get tough in a game.

Mr. Laz 09-10-2012 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 8898832)
It can be good at 100%, but we're too paper thin at the most vital role of a defense (pass rusher) to handle injuries or any situation where they're not there. Do we expect the offense to be just as good without Jamaal Charles? I'd think last season would have taught us that lesson.

It's the way Pioli has done it. He's invested entirely into run stuffers, and drafted ONE pass rusher. Two if you count Sheffield, but I don't.

We replaced Tamba Hali and Brandon Flowers with Andy Studebaker and Jacque Reeves... or something. I really don't care how to spell his name. I just know that both guys pretty much suck in any scheme you have.

I'm more worried about how mentally weak this team seems to be. They just fall apart as soon as things get tough in a game.

no, it means that we only have one way to play to be good and that means that a good team will exploit it.

The defense looks soft

ChiefsCountry 09-10-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8898038)
1 really good game against Caleb Hanie. He didn't step up yesterday.

He a ****ing sack what more do you want.

Hammock Parties 09-10-2012 04:03 PM

A coach from the Patriot Way who sucks?

Say it ain't so.

Hammock Parties 09-10-2012 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8897504)
Drive 2: Albert whiff and Cassel sack fumble. No real chance to get a drive going before the turnover.

We ran on first down, and then we drew up a short pass that Cassel executed horribly on second down.

It was Hermesque.

I'm going to go look at the play by play and count run/pass ratio on first down.

I bet it's Hermesque.

That whole gameplan yesterday reminded me of Herm.

Hammock Parties 09-10-2012 04:14 PM

Run
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At that point we were down 23 and started throwing every down for the most part.

So, during the competitive (somewhat) portion of the game on first down:

16 runs, 4 passes.


And this was in a game we knew would be a shootout.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1x1mvb2W23...00/edwards.jpg

Chiefnj2 09-10-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8898908)

That whole gameplan yesterday reminded me of Herm.

Except for the fact that they moved the ball the entire first half and first drive of the 2nd half, and put points on the board.

Rasputin 09-10-2012 04:55 PM

We tried to get cute with a flea flicker play. We tried that in preseason during our vanilla opps operation and failed, not surprised it failed yesterday. Sure it would have been a cool play if it worked but it didn't again fail. Since they tried it in preseason it was a predictable play and well defended.

Hammock Parties 09-10-2012 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8898961)
Except for the fact that they moved the ball the entire first half and first drive of the 2nd half, and put points on the board.

Herm's Chiefs offenses had a few good games, too.

This offense has a lot more talent, too, so of course it's gonna score some points.

But there's a lot of Herm in that gameplan yesterday. Deepest pass we threw was about 22-23 yards.

Another thing that game had in common with Herm offense: being completely shut the **** down in the second half, and then racking up a garbage time score AFTER A TIMEOUT.


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