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Gadzooks 09-16-2012 10:31 PM
In super slow-mo, he leads with his helmet into the opponent’s neck.
I would deem that to be illegal; however I don’t have the current version of the NFL rule book handy.

munkey 09-16-2012 10:31 PM
great block....wasn't helmet to helmet...totally legal...it's football...JFC

Amnorix 09-16-2012 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 8919178)
No, it's not. Golden Tate launches himself (no no #1) and is leading with his helmet (#2) and struck him in the neck/head area (#3) against what was basically a defenseless player.



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...nges-for-2012/

He's going to be fined.

This. It's blatantly illegal. It's not even remotely freaking CLOSE to legal.

KChiefer 09-16-2012 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas Chief (Post 8919336)
It was a shitty shot by Sapp on Chad Clifton. Didn't end his career though. He went on to win a ring with the Packers in 2011. Always hated Sapp after that, not that I needed any help in that regard.
Thanks. Glad he bounced back.

Rain Man 09-16-2012 10:35 PM
Russell Wilson is going to get some defensive players killed if he keeps this up.

(Shrug.) I wouldn't say it's illegal.

KChiefer 09-16-2012 10:36 PM
And you guys are right, it wasn't helmet to helmet. It was helmet to facemask.

Amnorix 09-16-2012 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Seahawk (Post 8919310)
So, you think this block should be a 15 yard penalty and negate a key first down? Good block, sorry Lee he didn't see it coming, at least he didn't get hurt..


Well, no, I mean if it's an important play that really helped the Seahawks out then the launching and leading with the helmet on a defenseless receiver all becomes totally legal...


Dude, it's seriously not even close. I don't care if the dumbass refs called it or not, it's clearly illegal. In 1975 it was legal, I'm sure, maybe even in 1995, but here in 2012 it ain't.

munkey 09-16-2012 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8919387)
This. It's blatantly illegal. It's not even remotely freaking CLOSE to legal.
6. PASSED: Expanding the defenseless player rule to protect defensive players on crackback blocks, making it illegal to hit them in the head or neck area.

He hit him in the chest...just because his head goes back doesn't mean he was hit in the neck or head...it's legal...

aturnis 09-16-2012 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by munkey (Post 8919380)
great block....wasn't helmet to helmet...totally legal...it's football...JFC
That's the thing, all of your "let 'em play" opinions don't matter. According to the rules, it's an illegal hit.

Not picking on you specifically munkey. Yours was just the most recent, "legal in my opinion, let' em play" post...

Joe Seahawk 09-16-2012 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8919408)
Well, no, I mean if it's an important play that really helped the Seahawks out then the launching and leading with the helmet on a defenseless receiver all becomes totally legal...


Dude, it's seriously not even close. I don't care if the dumbass refs called it or not, it's clearly illegal. In 1975 it was legal, I'm sure, maybe even in 1995, but here in 2012 it ain't.
Patriots will be here in a couple weeks..:drool:

munkey 09-16-2012 10:42 PM
in fact he leads with his left shoulder pad....look closely...legal...sorry

KChiefer 09-16-2012 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by munkey (Post 8919440)
in fact he leads with his left shoulder pad....look closely...legal...sorry
AND his head. There's a reason his helmet instantly wants to go see what the SEA cheerleaders are doing and the only thing that stops it is his chinstrap.

munkey 09-16-2012 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8919422)
That's the thing, all of your "let 'em play" opinions don't matter. According to the rules, it's an illegal hit.

Not picking on you specifically munkey. Yours was just the most recent, "legal in my opinion, let' em play" post...

Well...what's funny IMO is the cowboys were flagged on that play for a nit picky hit out of bounds...the block was so good that no one payed attention to player that was flagged.

aturnis 09-16-2012 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by munkey (Post 8919420)
6. PASSED: Expanding the defenseless player rule to protect defensive players on crackback blocks, making it illegal to hit them in the head or neck area.

He hit him in the chest...just because his head goes back doesn't mean he was hit in the neck or head...it's legal...
He lead with the crown of his helmet, and launched himself into a defenseless player. The back of his helmet hits the facemask of the other player.

BryanBusby 09-16-2012 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by munkey (Post 8919440)
in fact he leads with his left shoulder pad....look closely...legal...sorry
He got hit in the neck area with Tates helmet. I saw it again and again and again.

You must be watching a different clip.


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