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Hammock Parties 09-24-2012 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 8948200)
Stanford Routt has not been an issue in the regular season since coming to KC.

He ****ing sucked dick against the Saints.

Giving up six completions for 72 yards and a TD is not good corner play.

Stop sugar coating shit.

Sorter 09-24-2012 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8948232)
its not just Clay on here. It's majority of CP.

for the last 3 weeks I have read how badly Ryan Lilja sucks for this team and they need to throw the better talent Jeff Allen out there and blah blah blah.

and Ryan Lilja statistically is far and away our best olineman.

That's how much this places knows, so let Clay spout whatever he wants because everyone else puts their foot in their mouth when they try to spew some Chiefs knowledge as well, no different.

TBF, Lilja played much better at center than he has at guard.

However, your point stands true. All Clay did last week was bitch about how Bailey was a bust, and the first game back he proves to be a solid contributor and a leading reason why our nickel package (which we ran the whole game) was successful. He opened up one-on-ones for Houston, was adequate against the run, and was able to provide a much better pass rush from the 3 tech than either Poe or Pitouia had been able to provide.

BossChief 09-24-2012 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8948258)
He ****ing sucked dick against the Saints.

Giving up six completions for 72 yards and a TD is not good corner play.

Stop sugar coating shit.

What a stupid post.

mcaj22 09-24-2012 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 8948259)
TBF, Lilja played much better at center than he has at guard.

However, your point stands true. All Clay did last week was bitch about how Bailey was a bust, and the first game back he proves to be a solid contributor and a leading reason why our nickel package (which we ran the whole game) was successful. He opened up one-on-ones for Houston, was adequate against the run, and was able to provide a much better pass rush from the 3 tech than either Poe or Pitouia had been able to provide.

no, Lilja was like one of the few guys to grade out positive in the blowouts too. He's a good veteran that this place writes off because everyone wants and expects Will Shields and Brian Waters at our guard positions.

Jon Asamoah is much worse than Lilja and he gets a pass on here because he's a young talent. Because people on here slob over every Pioli 3rd, 4th and 5th round pick like it's some 1st round talent that Pioli magically evaluated and made a genius pick on. Pioli's drafts are garbage besides 2 players. And that so far has been true and for the foreseeable future will stay true.

BossChief 09-24-2012 10:24 PM

Asamoah had a bad game against White Williams and was dominant against NO.

aturnis 09-24-2012 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8948276)
no, Lilja was like one of the few guys to grade out positive in the blowouts too. He's a good veteran that this place writes off because everyone wants and expects Will Shields and Brian Waters at our guard positions.

Jon Asamoah is much worse than Lilja and he gets a pass on here because he's a young talent. Because people on here slob over every Pioli 3rd, 4th and 5th round pick like it's some 1st round talent that Pioli magically evaluated and made a genius pick on. Pioli's drafts are garbage besides 2 players. And that so far has been true and for the foreseeable future will stay true.

You're a fool. Judge his play with your eyes, not the PFF ranking.

mcaj22 09-24-2012 10:25 PM

and if your argument is Lilja is a better center than guard than that goes back to this piece of garbage coaching staff and awful idiot GM who should just play Lilja at Center and move the ****ing Two Time All American guard in Hudson, at ****ing guard.

But since this team has a hard on for playing guys out of position, ya know.

Sorter 09-24-2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8948258)
He ****ing sucked dick against the Saints.

Giving up six completions for 72 yards and a TD is not good corner play.

Stop sugar coating shit.

6 completions, 72 yards, a TD, and a pick. That helped change the entire momentum of the game. That, btw is something PFF can't account for.

You conveniently leave that out. Additionally, you can't expect Routt to allow 0 catches. He isn't Darrelle ****ing Revis. However, he is a productive player and has been a positive addition.

mcaj22 09-24-2012 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8948286)
You're a fool. Judge his play with your eyes, not the PFF ranking.

are you kidding me. what kind of garbage take is this

so JUSTIN HOUSTONS PFF RANKING IS OKAY AND IS SEEN AS THE END ALL BE ALL of OLBers

but Ryan Lilja's PFF Ranking is not, and we should judge him by our eyes

OKAY. This ****ing place sometimes.

Sorter 09-24-2012 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8948276)
no, Lilja was like one of the few guys to grade out positive in the blowouts too. He's a good veteran that this place writes off because everyone wants and expects Will Shields and Brian Waters at our guard positions.

Jon Asamoah is much worse than Lilja and he gets a pass on here because he's a young talent. Because people on here slob over every Pioli 3rd, 4th and 5th round pick like it's some 1st round talent that Pioli magically evaluated and made a genius pick on. Pioli's drafts are garbage besides 2 players. And that so far has been true and for the foreseeable future will stay true.

I will say that Lilja has improved from last year, IMO. Particularly during the second half of the season last year.

I think he played better at Center than Guard, and I would be willing to bet most agree with that statement.

BossChief 09-24-2012 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8948247)
If we had re-signed Carr and he only gave up 72 yards AND HAD A PICK AGAINST DREW BREES, we would be celebrating his performance.

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Sorter 09-24-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8948289)
and if your argument is Lilja is a better center than guard than that goes back to this piece of garbage coaching staff and awful idiot GM who should just play Lilja at Center and move the ****ing Two Time All American guard in Hudson, at ****ing guard.

But since this team has a hard on for playing guys out of position, ya know.

You won't get an argument out of me there. Rodney beasted at guard in limited action last year.

I understand his projection at center, but I, like yourself, think he could be a wonderful guard.

aturnis 09-24-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8948289)
and if your argument is Lilja is a better center than guard than that goes back to this piece of garbage coaching staff and awful idiot GM who should just play Lilja at Center and move the ****ing Two Time All American guard in Hudson, at ****ing guard.

But since this team has a hard on for playing guys out of position, ya know.

I would sure as hell hope a guard switching to center would play well. Just b/c Lilja played better at center than he does at guard doesn't mean he's better than Hudson.

Hammock Parties 09-24-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8948273)
What a stupid post.

Facts are facts.

Routt is ranked 42nd out of 55 corners in receiving yards allowed.

Sorter 09-24-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8948315)
Facts are facts.

Routt is ranked 42nd out of 55 corners in receiving yards allowed.

And he also had a game changing play. Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge that?


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