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Dr. Johnny Fever 11-04-2012 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9084352)
I didn't realize he has over 700. He may do it.

He's done it "quietly."

Ming the Merciless 11-04-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9084337)
Please read where I said longevity.

TG has only missed 2 games going back to his 2nd season.

I am not arguing against longevity being a huge factor in Tony G's case. (or in ANY case where career numbers are broken)

Absolutley.....Agree

I'm just saying that I can see someone doing it,

Shannon sharp was two good seasons away from doing it...(he was in CRAZY shape!)

Witten is on pace...Antonio gates will come close (probably wont do it)

But yah, I think SOMEONE will....

Its more likely to have a TE break 1000 receptions than say a RB break 4400 rushing attempts again...or even 3800....(its so much more of a passing league now)

Easy 6 11-04-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9084075)
The **** off he is.

He's good for 20-some odd yards a game on average, and 0 big plays.

He's dropped 5 passes and 3 have been picked.

He's a dumpster fire of a WR. The only reason he has a decent catch total is because Casshole loves to pump the ball to him in garbage time.

I have been right about the little worthless dreadlocked hobbit this WHOLE TIME and massive blowjobs are due.

The fact he played about 30 snaps last week as our #2 was EMBARRASSING.

He IS a terrible, terrible WR... he has no business playing that position, way too small, gets lost in a crowd, cant take a mugging from a safety or corner, he's just waaay to easy to cover downfield.

The way they're using him is criminal, he can be ok with quick hits and screens in space near the LOS, but sending him downfield is as bad as it gets, he doesnt stand a chance.

Either dumboll is even dumber than we thought, or pioli, despite his protests, manipulates roster decisions as much as we thought... Breaston is on the bench, but dex gets the call for the #2-3 spots?

It defies explanation.

BigMeatballDave 11-04-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9084365)
I am not arguing against longevity being a huge factor in Tony G's case. (or in ANY case where career numbers are broken)

Absolutley.....Agree

I'm just saying that I can see someone doing it,

Shannon sharp was two good seasons away from doing it...(he was in CRAZY shape!)

Witten is on pace...Antonio gates will come close (probably wont do it)

But yah, I think SOMEONE will....

Its more likely to have a TE break 1000 receptions than say a RB break 4400 rushing attempts again...or even 3800....(its so much more of a passing league now)

Gates won't. He's 32 and needs about 400. He's hurt too much. I overlooked Whitten. At 30, and with 747 catches, he will do it barring injury.

Again, longevity. Whitten has only missed 2 games.

Ming the Merciless 11-04-2012 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9084409)
Gates won't. He's 32 and needs about 400. He's hurt too much. I overlooked Whitten. At 30, and with 747 catches, he will do it barring injury.

Again, longevity. Whitten has only missed 2 games.

I agree it has a lot to do with longevity...

But others will do it after Witten as well.

1) Longevity (medicine / sports therapy) is improving

2) Passing is more common, and since the NFL keeps nerfing defenses I expect this trend to continue

3)the TE will only become more valuable in the passing game, as we have already seen.


So it will come down to longevity (of course) but if the other two factors (TE's being used as a weapon more, and passing being more and more common) then Tony G wouldve never had 1000 no matter how long he played....So where there was 0 tony G's before, there will be a witten, and sharpes/gates types who will come close and other who will break the record....MORE than just because of longevity..(but more than just the 1 Tony G)

But yes of course longevity is a factor (as everyone can easily see)

BigMeatballDave 11-04-2012 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9084438)

So it will come down to longevity (of course) but if the other two factors (TE's being used as a weapon more, and passing being more and more common) then Tony G wouldve never had 1000 no matter how long he played....So where there was 0 tony G's before, there will be a witten, and sharpes/gates types who will come close and other who will break the record....MORE than just because of longevity..(but more than just the 1 Tony G)

But yes of course longevity is a factor (as everyone can easily see)

It's surprising to me that he has avoided a serious injury.

Even Jerry Rice blew an ACL.

Dr. Johnny Fever 11-04-2012 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9084448)
It's surprising to me that he has avoided a serious injury.

Even Jerry Rice blew an ACL.

Gonzo is sure to have an ACL in week 17 this year.

Ming the Merciless 11-04-2012 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9084448)
It's surprising to me that he has avoided a serious injury.

Even Jerry Rice blew an ACL.

Well thats the thing...(let us hope/pray)

The methods that they have for dealing with ACL injuries are so much better now that:

1) players are coming back faster

2) players are able to come back to a higher % of their abilities

3) players can play longer after their injuries

So this is where the longevity part of the equation I think will become at least a little a bit more common.

Garcia Bronco 11-04-2012 08:52 PM

I am 88 percent that he'll retire without a playoff win.

Dr. Johnny Fever 11-04-2012 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 9084505)
I am 88 percent that he'll retire without a playoff win.

I see what you did there.

The Iron Chief 11-04-2012 09:51 PM

At a fast glance I thought this thread title was..
Tony Gonzalez "95% sure" he'll retire as a Chief."

I'd like to think hes 85% sure atm.
1 playoff win this drops to 65%
SB win then what? 49% I'm unsure what to think...a couple of sleepless nights thinking about it.for him I suppose

Dr. Johnny Fever 11-04-2012 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Iron Chief (Post 9084786)
At a fast glance I thought this thread title was..
Tony Gonzalez "95% sure" he'll retire as a Chief."

I'd like to think hes 85% sure atm.
1 playoff win this drops to 65%
SB win then what? 49% I'm unsure what to think...a ton of sleepless nights thinking about it.for him I suppose

Pervert

Ming the Merciless 11-04-2012 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 9084505)
I am 88 percent that he'll retire without a playoff win.

lol im 88% sure they'll get one this season

Ming the Merciless 11-04-2012 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 9084815)
Pervert

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rico 11-04-2012 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9084831)

ROFL


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