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Phil Simms: Eli Manning is not elite (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=266577)

Oh, that was Joey.

Nevermind.

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9115234)

ELI
2× Pro Bowl (2008, 2011)
2× Super Bowl champion (XLII, XLVI)
2× Super Bowl MVP (XLII, XLVI)
2× NFC Champion (2007, 2011)
NFL Record most 4th quarter touchdown passes in a season (15)
Tied NFL Record longest pass completion and touchdown (99 yards)
Tied NFL Record most game-winning drives in a season (8)
Most road wins in a single regular season and postseason by a starting quarterback (10)

Simms
2× Pro Bowl selection (1985, 1993)
1× Newspaper Enterprise Association first-team All-Pro selection (1986)
2× Super Bowl champion (XXI, XXV)
Super Bowl XXI MVP
1986 NEA National Football League Most Valuable Player Award
Shitty QB Son

Face it Simms, Manning > you

Eli would be a useless as his father if Eli had to play in the same league that Simms played in.

Simms was a better QB.

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 9115849)

Eli would be a useless as his father if Eli had to play in the same league that Simms played in.

Simms was a better QB.

You must not have seen Eli's father play.

Debating levels of greatness in this situation is really kinda pointless, isn't it? I understand that this is about 90% of what happens on a sports message board, but c'mon man.

You don't luck your way into two SB titles as a starting QB... much less 2 SB MVPs. Eli may not be pretty on every play or in every game, few are and to be honest - what matters most is how he shows up in big games or when his team needs him most.

Eli is in that upper tier of great QBs playing today... tier him as you like, but there are few that I'd take over him if given the choice. You can count those guys on 1 hand honestly.