I'm getting the feeling that they have tunnel vision, like they made their assesments of the team in their first seven to ten days, made a plan to get their guys, and come hell or high water that's the route they're going to go.

Mayock said Joeckel had some trouble with the inside speed moves on several of the tapes he watched. Said Johnny Football saved him on nearly every occasion.

I get your point BUT Mayock did say as gifted as Joekel was in college he lost a lot of battles against the elite athletic pass rushers of the upper eshalond of the SEC. Just saying.

You saw that same clip I see.

Yep.

Dumb****ing ****

I am beginning to think they want Albert to play guard and give him guard money and he won't sign. Bowe will get the tag.

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I don't care if it's the Cardinals giving us a 3rd - take it.

They've already gutted their leverage (again) but using a 2nd rounder to pick up a mediocre QB (again) and totally depriving them of the chance to truly make a QB bluff (again). So you're right - they're not going to extract a large price from anyone.

But I don't care the cost, there is no difference in value between Joeckel, Fisher and Johnson in the long-term and if they're hell-bent on taking a tackle, then it's time to do your job and start milking other GMs to convince them that someone like Sharrif Floyd, Dee Milliner or yes, the same Geno Smith who they've effectively sabotaged, DO have surplus value.

It's the same place that Scott Pioli found himself and we immediately saw how incapable Pioli was of operating without loaded dice. Well, John and Andy, it's time to prove you can actually adapt to tough circumstances.

I think the leverage was blown when everybody looked at the QB class.

This shit right here

I agree...we need to take the best offer to move down even if it's a shitty offer compared to years past

Anybody in the top 10 and their pick plus their second rounder should net the #1 pick IMO.

They will pobably sign bowe for sure but lets hope they sign albert...screw joeckle at number 1

He also said he's looking for respect. I think that translates directly into re$pect.