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Chiefshrink 03-03-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9460155)
I think Dorsey is real happy how that lil springboard worked out :D To me, that is the other side of this. He's been part of a successful effort exactly like this in the past, If Geno is all about Geno and more, can't see why Dorsey would hesitate considering the choices in this draft.

What we don't know was that more Ted than John or was it more John than Ted on that Rodgers pick in the latter 1st rd:shrug:

oldman 03-03-2013 01:15 PM

Why are we so hell-bent on drafting a tackle? Stephenson was a 3rd rounder last year and played reasonably well in Albert's absence. Was that a wasted pick?

patteeu 03-03-2013 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 9460366)
Why are we so hell-bent on drafting a tackle? Stephenson was a 3rd rounder last year and played reasonably well in Albert's absence. Was that a wasted pick?

IMO, "reasonably well" makes for good depth, but not for your frontline blindside protector. If they lose Albert, I wouldn't want all their eggs to be in the "Stephenson will blossom" basket. He might, but that's a gamble.

If Alberts re-signs, they have considerably more flexibility.

ChiliConCarnage 03-03-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 9460366)
Why are we so hell-bent on drafting a tackle? Stephenson was a 3rd rounder last year and played reasonably well in Albert's absence. Was that a wasted pick?

He had his struggles in pass protection towards the end. Is he a wasted pick? No, he was a 3rd rounder who was considered a development project. He showed signs maybe he could be a player but to start at LT next season might be too much to ask.

Direckshun 03-03-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9460180)
Dorsey's last 3 1st round picks have been

2012 -Tackle
2011 -Tackle
2010 -Nose Tackle

Wrong.

2012: passrusher (Nick Perry)
2011: tackle (Derek Sherrod)
2010: tackle (Byran Bulaga)
2009: nose tackle (BJ Raji) and passrusher (Clay Matthews)

RealSNR 03-03-2013 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9460484)
Wrong.

2012: passrusher (Nick Perry)
2011: tackle (Derek Sherrod)
2010: tackle (Byran Bulaga)
2009: nose tackle (BJ Raji) and passrusher (Clay Matthews)

A perfectly acceptable lineup of positions represented when you have a franchise QB.

But until we get one, this kind of drafting can go eat 1000 dicks

Rasputin 03-03-2013 02:09 PM

I'd bet next to anything that next year when we pick in top 10 of the draft that "BPA" will happen to be a DL when it is our turn.

BossChief 03-03-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9460081)
I really love stupi ****s like you that think any is going to trade up with the Chiefs.

The Jags are sitting in that catbird seat.

The Chiefs just found the biggest dildo they could and ****ed themselves right in the ass.

They may have killed the value of their pick, but I think it's possible to trade down at a discounted rate with someone. Maybe Buffalos 1,2 and 3 as well as a pick next year to move up if they like Geno enough to not want to take any chances. Their owner said openly that they wanted to move up for a QB.

An overlooked fact is that there are only 2 teams in the top ten that don't need a QB and there is a limited availability of quarterbacks in this draft...either move up or wait another year.

I think we will need to offer the pick at a 2 or 3 slot discount to move it though.

NJChiefsFan 03-03-2013 02:19 PM

Yeah in theory there is always a chance of trading down if you are desperate enough to do it. At some point you are going to go low enough to attrack someone. Now if you hold true to value, then that changes things. But if you throw value out the door and become hell bent on moving, then you open up the chance of being willing to get raped and move down.

milkman 03-03-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 9460545)
Yeah in theory there is always a chance of trading down if you are desperate enough to do it. At some point you are going to go low enough to attrack someone. Now if you hold true to value, then that changes things. But if you throw value out the door and become hell bent on moving, then you open up the chance of being willing to get raped and move down.

So, here's the plan.

Bend over for Alex Smith, and follow that up by bending over to move down down in the draft.

Cheek spreadin' like porn stars.

SAUTO 03-03-2013 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9459972)
Was it even technically allowed then? I though Papa Manning had to suck some D to make it happen with Eli.

Well yeah it was allowed. It happened didn't it?

and I haven't heard anything about not being able to trade players, just that they can't hold out during their first contracts or renegotiate them
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RealSNR 03-03-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9460563)
So, here's the plan.

Bend over for Alex Smith, and follow that up by bending over to move down down in the draft.

Cheek spreadin' like porn stars.

I wish I could hear Dorsey explain to me how that's a better plan than taking Geno at #1 and retaining as much draft value as possible

Hammock Parties 03-03-2013 04:40 PM

It would be a good idea if we're going to extend our streak of doing dumb things.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-03-2013 06:00 PM

Dorsey has never made a pick, you dumbasses. Just like Pioli never made a pick before Jackson.

Prison Bitch 03-03-2013 06:06 PM

It sorta reminds me of 2009 when some thought we should take Sanchez to see who would bite on a trade. The reality is, probably not many teams who would be willig to give up a lot for any QB this year.

As for a DT, man...haven't we gone to that well enough times already?


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