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BlackHelicopters 04-28-2013 09:05 AM

Keep them so that they each may obtain a Chiefs Super Bowl ing. Easy.

Rasputin 04-28-2013 09:25 AM

I just assume keep Brandon Albert @ LT and play Fisher at RT as long as BA back holds up.

Absolute no excuse for our quarterback not to be successful. If not successful then point the fingers at the quarterback and not the Oline.

bricks 04-28-2013 10:47 AM

Brandon Albert needs to prove that he is a probowl caliber or top 3 LT in the league to deserve the kind of money he is demanding. IMO, at this point in his career he hasn't proved that.

Yeah we can expect solid dependable play from him but I don't think he will never be in the mould of an Orlando Pace, Jonathan Ogden, Willie Roaf or Walter Jones. He is just not dominating enough or good enough to get paid like a top tackle in the league. It's clear to me that the value he is demanding doesn't reflect his performance. He would make a good example of a player that is simply overpaid.

I know a lot of people on this board love him but I think this is a reality that most of us need to accept. It bothers me to see that he is not flexible and only wants to play one position only. That's a sign of selfishness and not really contributing to being a team player by refusing to help out the team in any way possible.

I say franchise him again next year even if the price goes up for him and Dorsey should continue to be persistent and try to get what he can for him or else let him walk and continue to try and find Olineman wherever necessary.

Rasputin 04-28-2013 10:50 AM

I do hope Dorsey and Reid pissed off Brandon Albert this year but we keep him at LT and he takes out his flustrations on DE & LBs this year with pancakes.

DaWolf 04-28-2013 11:13 AM

Move one to RT this year and never mention the revolving door of poor pass protectors that we've had on that side again. Let opposing DCs worry about how to pressure the QB without just rushing 4, and hope Smith is smart enough to expose it. An injury won't cripple the offense. If someone wants to offer a 2 + another pick in the 2014 draft next year, especially after training camp injuries, make the move.

There is no reason to force this move if we are OK cap wise...

Saccopoo 04-28-2013 11:16 AM

Well, if Dorsey/Reid do what they say and it's open competition on the offensive line (as they told Schwartz that the best five will start), Albert might not even make it as a starter.

He's going to have a hard time beating out both Fisher and Stephenson, IMO.

How's a potential franchise year of riding the pine going to shape his contract demands in 2014?

Mother****erJones 04-28-2013 11:18 AM

Albert as a 9 million dollar olineman is starting. Guaranteed.

The Bad Guy 04-28-2013 11:27 AM

I really think Albert is going to be the left guard (if he's still here). I have no idea what the plan is now. They handled that entire situation really awful.

DaWolf 04-28-2013 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9640575)
Albert as a 9 million dollar olineman is starting. Guaranteed.

I would stick the guy at LT, have Fisher play RT (like I mentioned earlier, even Roaf played RT his first year). Fisher learns the NFL there, Albert proves his worth in a contract year at LT.

If Albert stays the full year and proves his worth and leaves via free agency next year, then you still get at worst a 2015 compensatory pick. At best, if Stephenson proves he is ready, you have until the trade deadline to deal Albert..

Saccopoo 04-28-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9640593)
I really think Albert is going to be the left guard (if he's still here). I have no idea what the plan is now. They handled that entire situation really awful.

This.

Both Stephenson and Fisher have better OT skillsets than Albert.

I think Albert can beat out Asamoah at LG though, as Asamoah has underperformed to this point.

Mr. Laz 04-28-2013 11:31 AM

Tagging Albert again next year is not that big a deal

2 things needed

1. cap room
2. must trade,cut or sign him long term

You aren't going to let him play on a tag again next year so we must resolve the issue one way or another.

philfree 04-28-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9640593)
I really think Albert is going to be the left guard (if he's still here). I have no idea what the plan is now. They handled that entire situation really awful.

Albert put himself out of the ball park with his contract demands which I understand because this is his chance to make the big bucks. That's probably why he said he wasn't going to play anywhere but LT. If he were to actually sign a new contract I bet he would play where ever he was asked to after that. With Fisher at LT and Albert at LG the left side of our line would be dominant with the potential to be as good as Roaf and Waters were.

Hoover 04-28-2013 11:38 AM

Guards get huge contracts these days. So why not try to lock Albert up long term at a decent price and play him at LT or LG. As many have said money talks and it makes no sense to trade him now.

Saccopoo 04-28-2013 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9640612)
Albert put himself out of the ball park with his contract demands which I understand because this is his chance to make the big bucks. That's probably why he said he wasn't going to play anywhere but LT. If he were to actually sign a new contract I bet he would play where ever he was asked to after that. With Fisher at LT and Albert at LG the left side of our line would be dominant with the potential to be as good as Roaf and Waters were.

LT: Fisher
LG: Albert
C: Hudson
RG: Schwartz or Asamoah
RT: Stephenson

Very solid offensive line.

milkman 04-28-2013 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9640618)
LT: Fisher
LG: Albert
C: Hudson
RG: Schwartz or Asamoah
RT: Stephenson

Very solid offensive line.

I really liked Shwartz at guard as a free agent coming out of Carolina a couple of years ago.

I think he can be a dominating force at RG.


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