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aturnis 05-13-2013 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 9678453)
One of my favorites is how Jeff Allen is a worthless piece of shit. He statrted at guard in 14 games as a rookie. That's great learning experience and I expect him to get better. Yet, some on this board think he's a bust.

So a 2nd round pick who was pressed into the starting lineup way ahead of schedule is a bust. Not everyone is going to be Will Shields. And I LOVE how they are willing to throw away a 2nd round 2012 draft pick because "he sucks" then turn around and proclaim giving up 2 2nd round picks for Alex Smith is highway robbery. Well which is it?
I propose we pick players who might help win Championships with our future 2nd round picks.

ToxSocks 05-13-2013 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9678695)
I propose we pick players who might help win Championships with our future 2nd round picks.
The point is, one season isn't enough to deem a player a bust.

Some of the same people who were saying to give Albert time when he was a 1st and 2nd year player, are the same people declaring other 1st year players as busts.

The forum has lost a a lot of objectivity this past season because of the polarizing topics...which have created extremes on both sides of the Truefan/Drafturbator spectrum. It'll all even out when TC rolls around, so i wish people would just drop it already.

Sorter 05-13-2013 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9678688)
Jonathan Baldwin was the son of Chuck Norris according to camp reports last year. Excuse these people for not eating the cotton candy media reports.
The thing is, he was tearing it up in camp. It wasn't fake. He really did have some spectacular catches (one in particular against Toler from AZ IIRC). The guy just can't put it together on the field during the season. Additionally, I think his confidence got worked after the abortion of a pre-season he had.

mcaj22 05-13-2013 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9678751)
The thing is, he was tearing it up in camp. It wasn't fake. He really did have some spectacular catches (one in particular against Toler from AZ IIRC). The guy just can't put it together on the field during the season. Additionally, I think his confidence got worked after the abortion of a pre-season he had.
because he sucks

of course hes going to jump over Greg Toler who was in shorts and probably wasnt trying.

in NFL game on Sundays Greg Toler would get him and jam Baldwin so hard at the line of scrimmage that Baldwin's head would be out his ass wondering how the hell to even stay balanced and what route tree to not screw up

that's the problem, no defense respects him and they all have the gameplan on how to stop him easily, until Baldwin debunks that strategy and proves teams wrong, hes useless

Sorter 05-13-2013 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9678768)
because he sucks

of course hes going to jump over Greg Toler who was in shorts and probably wasnt trying.

in NFL game on Sundays Greg Toler would get him and jam Baldwin so hard at the line of scrimmage that Baldwin's head would be out his ass wondering how the hell to even stay balanced and what route tree to not screw up

that's the problem, no defense respects him and they all have the gameplan on how to stop him easily, until Baldwin debunks that strategy and proves teams wrong, hes useless
From what I remember, it was a comeback that Cassel surprisingly underthrew right to Toler. Baldwin just went over his back and snatched it.

ThaVirus 05-13-2013 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 9678453)
So a 2nd round pick who was pressed into the starting lineup way ahead of schedule is a bust. Not everyone is going to be Will Shields. And I LOVE how they are willing to throw away a 2nd round 2012 draft pick because "he sucks" then turn around and proclaim giving up 2 2nd round picks for Alex Smith is highway robbery. Well which is it?
I'm far from a Debbie Downer, but that Alex Smith trade does appear to be highway robbery.

mcaj22 05-13-2013 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9678778)
From what I remember, it was a comeback that Cassel surprisingly underthrew right to Toler. Baldwin just went over his back and snatched it.
I understand that but it was practice/light scrimmage and Toler was probably standing 10 yards away in shorts at the line of scrimmage letting Baldwin actually attempt to run a route

in real NFL games, any CB worth a shit doesnt even give him a chance to run a route, they just push him around

i dont think he gets enough reps (or ever did in a "Romeo lazy practice" on how to beat physical real time gameplay)

mcaj22 05-13-2013 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 9678453)
One of my favorites is how Jeff Allen is a worthless piece of shit. He statrted at guard in 14 games as a rookie. That's great learning experience and I expect him to get better. Yet, some on this board think he's a bust.

So a 2nd round pick who was pressed into the starting lineup way ahead of schedule is a bust. Not everyone is going to be Will Shields. And I LOVE how they are willing to throw away a 2nd round 2012 draft pick because "he sucks" then turn around and proclaim giving up 2 2nd round picks for Alex Smith is highway robbery. Well which is it?
they just traded a 2nd round pick (that we got for a HALL OF FAME TE) for a ****ing FB.

enough said.

IowaChiefs83 05-13-2013 07:02 PM
I enjoyed Andy Reids interview. Even though it was a bit of a fluff piece I'm inclined to believe in a long time we have a capable head coach who can handle speaking and can give us a bit of an insight.

There is two things rookie training camps are good for. It gives the players a chance to get their feet wet and our coaches get a good look at each players ability.


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