I thought I was in the Under the Dome thread.

Orlando Jones bothered me too. I've only seen him in comedic roles.

It was certainly different than we're used to but he was good, IMO.

I'm not stating that they should have followed the "family narrative" or a side kick and love interest angle. But here's a character in Ichabod that's a British traitor serving under George Washington in the Revolutionary War. There are endless possibilities.

For instance, they found the head way too soon, IMO. Why not make it more of a mystery where Ichabod says something along the lines of "I know who knows where the head lies. George Washington (or Ben Franklin or John Hancock, for that matter)".

Then, they could mix history with the procedural, which would have made it really fun and more "grounded".

IMO, it would sure beat the hell out of witches. Blech.

He just didn't seem to fit the character. I like the lead actors, but he seems out of place. Perhaps he'll grow on me.

Sucks they greased Clancy Brown so quickly - he's one of my favorites. Wouldn't be surprised if they bring him in occasionally for some flashbacky/dream stuff.

This obviously has that Lost stink to it.

Yeah, I'm definitely with you on Clancy Brown. I was actually sucked into thinking that he'd finally gotten his own TV show until they got that call.

I'd have rather seen him in the Orlando Jones role (nothing against Jones) because I really enjoy Clancy's acting.

Clancy Brown is a guy that should have a role in Star Wars, IMO.

I didn't care for her. It could just be the way they have written that character. Either way, her role dix not impress me.

I'd like to see where it goes before passing judgement about the witches. While witchcraft has never been my 'thing', I actually think that's a fresher take than a national treasure/davinci code adventure would be. But I am admittedly a fan of things with a weirder supernatural take. It sounds like a few of you can't stretch your imagination that far, and that's fine. Different strokes...

I thought it started fine but began to unravel around the half hour mark. There was too much infodump. A lot of writers seem to be losing the old "show, don't tell" addage. There were too many abrupt events, as well. Just as an example, Sulu's ties to the dark side should've been foreshadowed by something more sophisticated than a moustache-twirl of a look. They gave it away in such a hackneyed fashion that there was no tension left when he arrived at his apartment and found the horseman there. Similarly, I thought the Reverend witch just wasn't handled very well. I also thought the editing was a little too schizophrenic for my tastes. I think as a whole there wasn't much in the way of subtlety or sophistication to the pilot. It had all the hallmarks of the downside of the bad robot guys: trying so hard to be cool and edgy that they miss the mark on the common sense stuff.

That said, I enjoyed it and will keep watching. At least until Fox cancels it.

I hope Almost Human's pilot in November is stronger. That one actually is a full bad robot production, sleepy hollow isn't, just orci/kurtzman, but i'm not sure whether that's a positive or a negative at this point.

I felt like the writers were trying to cram the first season into one episode so they can get to the meat of the plot.

It almost felt like they were trying to grab the audience's attention to avoid the Firefly treatment.

Yeah, that's the impression I had as well.

The witch angle has been done to a certain extent with this story before in Tim Burton film. So I wouldn't really call it fresh. And honestly, the aspect of it does not bother me all that much. My biggest issue is with making neck stump into one of the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse. That is just stretching it too far from the original story for me.

I think the only Tim Burton film I've ever watched had Batman in it, so I would have no way of knowing that.

I loved it. I thought the chemistry between the two main characters was fantastic, the concept behind what the Horseman really is was inventive, and the nice touches were nice touches. Certainly better than almost anything on network TV, so I'm in.

But, yeah, I worry that Fox is going to Surprise! cancel it, if for nothing else because it reminds me of New Amsterdam, which I also loved, which also had a lost-in-time main character left over from colonial days paired with an African-American female law officer and solving a big mystery, and it was also on Fox, and it was unceremoniously axed.

No pun intended.

Fox has been killing good shows forever. I loved Brimstone. Great cast, novel idea, dark, creepy, edgy, whacked.

But Trailer Trash Mommy Swap will get picked up for another season! 4321

Brimstone was great. John Glover as the devil? Sign me up.