And you're a know it all douche. Almost every band I like I prefer their first 2-3 albums. And almost every example you gave was stupid. Is STP more popular now than when they first hit the scene? Is Soungarden? Do you think FF were ever as popular as Nirvana? Did Sabbath sell more Ozzy albums or Dio albums? Did VH sell more albums with DLR or Hagar?

Just because a band changes (or "grows" to you) it doesn't mean they're better, and more often than not they're never as good. My favorite NIN album is still Pretty Hate Machine, but they've had a lot of good ones since then. If they would have tried to dramatically change their sound they would have lost all of their fans and flopped big time.

I prefer the early work to the hippie-era.

Anything that classic rock radio has repeatedly shoved down your gullet, throw right to the curb; the Stones have a very good body of work outside of that shit.

See above. Exact same scenario


I thought it was all "old stuff"? Unless you count the Page and Plant-thing.

Yeah, those mother****ers aren't on the playlist and haven't been since I was like...10.
I like the whole body of original Police work.

LMAO

To me, Sabbath is about what Iommi is doing. Yeah, the classic stuff is legendary, but I've heard some good "no Ozzy" cuts too. "Zero the Hero" comes to mind.

Being beat to death with Rush is nevar a pleasant experience. That said, it's always a good concert and sounds phenominal.

But...but...GARY CHERONE! LMAO Yeah, No Dave = GTFO, please...

I saw Nirvana open for 24/7 Spyz at the Outhouse in 1989. They were touring as a four piece at the time, and I remeber Novaselic trying to crack jokes with the audience before their set, and just getting raped CP-style as a result. They did a good set, and I still prefer "Bleach" over the rest of their shit. The Fighters are the closet thing to this "evolving band" concept Dane speaks of that I can relate to. They've been involved in working with some very diverse artists, and more importantly; making it work.

I respect the DeLeo brothers as musicians, but aside from a song or two; meh.

Sweet Jesus yes. I'm sorry; did Soungarden record an album after "Louder Than Love"? None that I care to hear, thx!

I'm not taking a stance on this.

"Highway Star/Space Trucking"

Next band please!

that's all in line with what I've heard over the years. zack contributed to what 'made' rage rage, but... he always had his mind on different things really. too bad, really, and I get the feeling that his passion really lies in the other areas of 'activism' that he's into.

too bad it didn't work out with audioslave... loved the direction they were going toward, but oh well.

I really liked the first Audioslave record but it was destined to fail because once again, there were two factions: "The Band" and "The Singer".

"The Band" severely compromised after the first record. They went for more of Cornell's "singer/songwriter" approach, which is why you hear less "riff" oriented tracks and more "songs". They also went with Brendan O'Brien as a producer, one of Cornell's friends.

By the third album, it was nearly all Cornell. The band would be in one room jamming out killer, funky riffs and while Cornell was in another room working out songs on his acoustic guitar.

I'm sure you can tell by the album who won out.

:shake:

And once again, you misunderstand the word "Artist". Contrary to your beliefs, bands, especially those with artistic band members, prefer to do what they want with their music as opposed to chasing after their fans.

Is this a trick question? Foo Fighters have sold tens of millions more records than Nirvana. Nirvana's second record only sold two million copies. Did Nirvana ever sell out Wembly night after night?

Regardless, it's not about selling records: It's about expressing yourself and growing as an artist. You don't seem to even understand that simple concept.

Who cares?

That's because you're a simpleton that would rather have his favorite bands remain static rather than grow and change.

Again, who cares?

Album being released tomorrow. The reviews I've read from sources who have already heard it seem to suggest that this album is the best NIN stuff since The Fragile and/or The Downward Spiral. I'm interested/excited about it.

Ive had it about a week, haven't had a chance to listen to it much but what Ive heard is really good.

Trent Reznor speaks on value of music: “It costs 10 bucks, or go **** yourself.”

http://consequenceofsound.net/2013/0...****-yourself/


“Nine Inch Nails feels bigger than it ever has… Is it because we’re on Columbia? Is it scarcity? I don’t know, but it doesn’t feel bigger in the sense that we’ve desperately adopted some new clothing style. It feels organic, and it feels good not to be worrying about whether or not we shipped vinyl to the cool record store in Prague. I know that what we’re doing flies in the face of the Kickstarter Amanda-Palmer-Start-a-Revolution thing, which is fine for her, but I’m not super-comfortable with the idea of Ziggy Stardust shaking his cup for scraps. I’m not saying offering things for free or pay-what-you-can is wrong. I’m saying my personal feeling is that my album’s not a dime. It’s not a buck. I made it as well as I could, and it costs 10 bucks, or go **** yourself.”

I made it about ten seconds into that. That guy got so full of himself. They were nuts live in the Pretty Hate Machine days.

What are your thoughts on that, Dane? I'd give my own if I weren't drawing such mental blanks lately, so my thinking may need to be sparked on this one.

And that is one of my favorite albums I liked Broken and Fixed, but the rest got bad.

You didn't like The Fragile or The Downward Spiral? I thought there were some hidden gems on With Teeth, but I can understand why people aren't fans of that one. I'm not much of a fan of Year Zero (with an exception of a couple songs), haven't really given Ghosts the time yet and really didn't care for The Slip. I pre-ordered it on Itunes and my shit is downloading it right now...heard it is very Pretty Hate Machine-ish.

I liked NIN back in the day -- it broke sonic ground. But the direction TR went was not so interesting to me -- not to say it was bad, just didn't inspire hitting the "buy" button imo.

this new works seems to capture NIN sentiment -- within NIN confines it feels new, I'm just in a different place now as opposed to the eighties. I'll listen to it curiously and see if it finds it's way into my collection.

That's a pretty cool way of approaching it...I'll try to do the same.

I jerk off at least a couple times a week, and pirate music, movies, video games etc. regularly. Dont like it? Eat a dick.