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DMAC 06-21-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9767446)
That is completely untrue.

Unlike Aerosmith, Van Halen, Mötley Crüe and others from that era, Metallica isn't a nostalgia act. They continue to release albums on a semi-regular basis, the last five of which were #1 the week upon release. The Black album sold more than 12 million copies its first year of release alone.

Bands that sell out stadiums worldwide and sell millions of copies upon each release aren't living off of a single record released 27 years in the past.

Metallica is on another level than those bands. Try Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin.

They were SO big, that yes, they are still living off those golden years.

DaneMcCloud 06-21-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 9767490)
Metallica is on another level than those bands. Try Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin.

They were SO big, that yes, they are still living off those golden years.

Try it for what?

Dayze 06-21-2013 03:02 PM

as a guitar player who at one time could play all songs from memory through Black, I can understand if they went a different direction. After years of playing that style of music, I got burned out.

DaneMcCloud 06-21-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9767536)
as a guitar player who at one time could play all songs from memory through Black, I can understand if they went a different direction. After years of playing that style of music, I got burned out.

Artists, especially long lasting artists, tend to grow and change. Metallica has had several lineup changes over the years, which tends to change the band dynamic and musical direction.

My comment was merely directed at the notion that Metallica hasn't done anything noteworthy since 1986, which to me is hysterical.

It's the whole "Well I liked them before they were cool!" cliche. And for some reason, Metallica has a legion of "haters", even though their record sales and concert draws clearly dispel that notion.

Dayze 06-21-2013 03:11 PM

oh no, I agree. I think their music has changed, not necessarily for the worse IMO, as they too probably got burned out playing the stame style for over a decade.

They're by far on par with Led Zeppelin, Van Halen, Pink Floyd in terms of sustainability and longevity. (as others have mentioned)

The Franchise 06-21-2013 03:11 PM

So is this supposed to be like another "Wall"?

DaneMcCloud 06-21-2013 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9767550)
oh no, I agree. I think their music has changed, not necessarily for the worse IMO, as they too probably got burned out playing the stame style for over a decade.

They're by far on par with Led Zeppelin, Van Halen, Pink Floyd in terms of sustainability and longevity. (as others have mentioned)

They're very different because unlike those bands, Metallica continues to release new music and sell out huge concert venues.

Zeppelin hasn't release a new studio album since the late 70's, Pink Floyd hasn't released a studio album with it's most important member since 1980 and Van Halen has only released three albums in the past three decades, each with a different singer.

Metallica's on a completely different level.

DMAC 06-21-2013 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9767590)
They're very different because unlike those bands, Metallica continues to release new music and sell out huge concert venues.

Zeppelin hasn't release a new studio album since the late 70's, Pink Floyd hasn't released a studio album with it's most important member since 1980 and Van Halen has only released three albums in the past three decades, each with a different singer.

Metallica's on a completely different level.

Hmmm, I wonder if Roger Waters came back to Pink Floyd, and they made a new album, and it sucked holy balls...I wonder if they would still sell out huge concert venues?

unlurking 06-21-2013 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9767546)
Artists, especially long lasting artists, tend to grow and change. Metallica has had several lineup changes over the years, which tends to change the band dynamic and musical direction.

My comment was merely directed at the notion that Metallica hasn't done anything noteworthy since 1986, which to me is hysterical.

It's the whole "Well I liked them before they were cool!" cliche. And for some reason, Metallica has a legion of "haters", even though their record sales and concert draws clearly dispel that notion.

Wow, judge much? Guess I didn't read too much into your post.

There is no cliche here. As you admit, they changed. When things change, people tend to react. Your whole "in before cool" interpretation is nothing but a petulant defense from someone trying to justify his own opinions. Guess what. I don't give a **** if you like new Coke or old Coke. I don't give a **** if you like new Metallica or old Metallica.

The fact that you can't understand how personal tastes may differ from popular opinion is very telling of the industry you represent. I can't tell if you're really this hypocritical or if you're just trying to stir shit.

DaneMcCloud 06-21-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 9767602)
Wow, judge much? Guess I didn't read too much into your post.

I'm not judging anyone. As I've said multiple times, I find it comical.

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 9767602)
Wow, judge much? Guess I didn't read too much There is no cliche here. As you admit, they changed. When things change, people tend to react. Your whole "in before cool" interpretation is nothing but a petulant defense from someone trying to justify his own opinions. Guess what. I don't give a **** if you like new Coke or old Coke. I don't give a **** if you like new Metallica or old Metallica.

I never judged anyone for their musical taste. I said, once again, that I find it hysterical that the most vocal Metallica fans on the internet are those that believe that they haven't done anything noteworthy since 1986.

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 9767602)
The fact that you can't understand how personal tastes may differ from popular opinion is very telling of the industry you represent. I can't tell if you're really this hypocritical or if you're just trying to stir shit.

First off, I don't "represent" any industry. Secondly, you need to re-read my posts because you are clearly misunderstanding them. And finally, stop being so emotional about a band.

Demonpenz 06-21-2013 04:40 PM

I remember riding in a 1972 Chevy on the way to football practice with some tallica playing. Still sounds good to me and it seems like they are doing well. Yeah **** them through the napster phase, but they had some good tunes on death magnetic.

Deberg_1990 06-21-2013 06:19 PM

Hell yea! This would be pretty sweet in IMAX. ill see it.

GloucesterChief 06-21-2013 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9767446)
That is completely untrue.

Unlike Aerosmith, Van Halen, Mötley Crüe and others from that era, Metallica isn't a nostalgia act. They continue to release albums on a semi-regular basis, the last five of which were #1 the week upon release. The Black album sold more than 12 million copies its first year of release alone.

Bands that sell out stadiums worldwide and sell millions of copies upon each release aren't living off of a single record released 27 years in the past.

Iron Maiden has been together longer, sells out stadiums worldwide, and is putting out more and better music

DaneMcCloud 06-21-2013 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 9767971)
Iron Maiden has been together longer, sells out stadiums worldwide, and is putting out more and better music

While Iron Maiden's music is a matter of opinion, they do not sell out 80,000 seat stadiums worldwide. Iron Maiden's latest tour consists of smaller concert venues, mostly at casinos in the U.S.

Not that's there's anything wrong with that.

GloucesterChief 06-21-2013 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9767978)
While Iron Maiden's music is a matter of opinion, they do not sell out 80,000 seat stadiums worldwide. Iron Maiden's latest tour consists of smaller concert venues, mostly at casinos in the U.S.

Not that's there's anything wrong with that.

Just keep on believing that.


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