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Easy 6 07-10-2013 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9804143)
Between the rookie and this contract he has now gotten around $84MM in guaranteed $$ and is 5 games over .500.

Yea McNabb has a point.

Might that be because they see a real potential stallion in whats mostly a stable full of geldings.

His potential is what they're banking on, his production with an overall very average bunch is what they based their faith on... you wouldnt pay top money for his talents in a league full of aging greats and a bunch of who knows?

Give him a ravens-like team and he probably beats Flacco in most statistical categories.

Hootie 07-10-2013 07:31 PM

Personally, I think Stafford has all the talent in the world but his mechanics are shit, his accuracy is inconsistent at best, he relies far too much on Calvin Johnson, and his decision making leaves a lot to be desired for. He's basically a Jay Cutler. Good, but probably not good enough (unless you give him a top tier defense and innovative coaching staff).

Hammock Parties 07-10-2013 07:32 PM

Based on the football experts in this thread, the Lions need to move away from Matt Stafford.

Perhaps trade him and roll the dice in the draft.

Is this what I'm hearing?

Marcellus 07-10-2013 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9804159)
What should the Lions do, then? You know, since Stafford hasn't earned this big contract.

What is their other option?

By your logic this off-season Detroit should have just let Stafford go and drafted a Qb in the 1st round, any QB.

Is the conversation whether Detroit had a better option or whether Stafford EARNED a big guaranteed contract?

You are such a ****ing idiot.

Marcellus 07-10-2013 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9804169)
Based on the football experts in this thread, the Lions need to move away from Matt Stafford.

Perhaps trade him and roll the dice in the draft.

Is this what I'm hearing?

Goddamn you are dumb.

I am not surprised you dont understand the difference between "earned something" and being in the right place at the right time.

Hammock Parties 07-10-2013 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9804171)
By your logic this off-season Detroit should have just let Stafford go and drafted a Qb in the 1st round, any QB.

No. I never said this. You are wrong.

Quote:

Is the conversation whether Detroit had a better option or whether Stafford EARNED a big guaranteed contract?
That's a murky term.

You either pay him or move away from him.

Detroit paid him. Could they have paid him less? Doubt it.

It's really that simple. This is a pretty dumb conversation. But it's to be expected from this place, where real QBs are constantly pilloried.

Hootie 07-10-2013 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9804169)
Based on the football experts in this thread, the Lions need to move away from Matt Stafford.

Perhaps trade him and roll the dice in the draft.

Is this what I'm hearing?

No.

He's just not elite. And according to what I read on this site, you can't win a Super Bowl without elite QB play. Stafford has flashed, but last year was absolute regression.

Marcellus 07-10-2013 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9804167)
Might that be because they see a real potential stallion in whats mostly a stable full of geldings.

His potential is what they're banking on, his production with an overall very average bunch is what they based their faith on... you wouldnt pay top money for his talents in a league full of aging greats and a bunch of who knows?

Give him a ravens-like team and he probably beats Flacco in most statistical categories.

$84MM worth of potential. :hmmm:

Look Detroit did what they had to do, McNabb has a point and to act like he doesn't is ridiculous.

He didn't say Stafford was worthless loser. He just said basically wow that seem excessive.

Marcellus 07-10-2013 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9804173)
No. I never said this. You are wrong.



That's a murky term.

You either pay him or move away from him.

Detroit paid him. Could they have paid him less? Doubt it.

It's really that simple. This is a pretty dumb conversation. But it's to be expected from this place, where real QBs are constantly pilloried.

You do realize idiots like you on CP applaud every move made by every team with a marginal QB?

Deberg_1990 07-10-2013 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9804181)
$84MM worth of potential. :hmmm:

Look Detroit did what they had to do, McNabb has a point and to act like he doesn't is ridiculous.

He didn't say Stafford was worthless loser. He just said basically wow that seem excessive.

It's excessive, but that's the market for a young, strong armed QB with that sort of potential. Any team in the same situation would have paid that.

Hammock Parties 07-10-2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9804183)
You do realize idiots like you on CP applaud every move made by every team with a marginal QB?

If you have a QB who can make all the throws, you keep him. Period.

The fact this fanbase hasn't figured that out after all this time is disturbing.

If Matt Stafford hit free agency and we gave him this contract some of you would be complaining.

Unbelievable.

beach tribe 07-10-2013 07:46 PM

If you have a QB who is in his prime, has the potential, and has proven to capableble of throwing for 5000 yards what he has earned should be a record setting contract in any year that he puts pen to paper..
Its not what you've earned. Its what youre worth.

Marcellus 07-10-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9804195)
It's excessive, but that's the market for a young, strong armed QB with that sort of potential. Any team in the same situation would have paid that.

Correct so McNabb wasn't out of line.

Personally I think Detroit, Baltimore, and Dallas have all now ****ed up and I am fine with it.

Marcellus 07-10-2013 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9804201)
If you have a QB who can make all the throws, you keep him. Period.

Jeff George approves this post.

Hammock Parties 07-10-2013 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9804205)
Personally I think Detroit, Baltimore, and Dallas have all now ****ed up and I am fine with it.

LMAO

And they will all win more games during the Alex Smith era than the Chiefs.

Betcha.


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