I don't care about baseball players lying.

Should we ban everyone who ever threw a spitball? Every catcher who ever framed a pitch? Everyone who scuffed/pine tarred a ball? Everyone who ever stole a sign? Everyone who trapped a ball and pretended they caught it? Read some books about the early days of MLB. People skipped bases when umps weren't watching. A catcher snuck a mother****ing peeled potato onto the field, threw it into left field when a runner stle third, and then tagged him out with the actual ball when he ran home. Many of those players are in the HOF. Who gives a **** if people take vitamins, supplements, or steroids?

This is stupid. Baseball is a game. The objective is to throw the ball, hit the ball, and catch the ball. What people do to their own bodies in order to make them better at it shouldn't make a bit of difference.

I'm confused, was A-Rod banned before for steroids?
If not, this seems rather steep for a "first time offense".

I agree with your end result, but you are conflating gamesmanship with cheating, and there is a difference.

A difference without distinction, IMO.

yup


MLB wouldn't be trying nearly as hard to ban a player if it wasn't NY that was looking to get 60 million back

dumb post is dumb

Actually, baiting umpires into impacting the outcome of games by blowing calls is worse than simply trying to make yourself more capable of hitting the ball out of the park because you chose this (illegal) supplement instead of that (legal) supplement.

Pretty big distinction between stealing signs and framing pitches and taking substances to improve your performance that are explicitly banned in a collectively bargained agreement. The first two are no prohibited; the third is.

Please explain why cheating to make yourself better at a game (steroids) is worse than cheating by compromising the integrity of the game (doctoring equipment).

Saul Good, ladies and gentleman. Show me a rule that bans A) and not B).

why have any rules at all ... they just get in the way of the game.


i would like to see someone try to steal 2nd after i give Salvy a sniper's rifle.

I picture the people who make the "baseball is better with steroids" argument as arena football league season ticket holders. More scoring makes any sport better, right?

I'll grant you those two...that was more of a slippery slope argument. Of course, I'm not certain that steroid use was prohibited back when Mac and Bonds were doing it...

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertain...ecords/278224/

This was an interesting article from today. Kind of an obvious question that gets glossed over... but it questions why none of the other sports leagues are getting involved in this issue.