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mnchiefsguy 01-06-2014 05:11 PM

I like it. It is fair, and would have the benefit of preventing a team from tanking it for the #1 pick (I am looking at you, ****ing cheating Indy). Teams would have to tank three years, and which teams are going to risk alienating their entire fanbase for 3 years?

Dayze 01-06-2014 05:14 PM

"This is an excellent idea. I'm glad I thought of it" / Godell

ct 05-15-2015 08:35 AM

bump, solid take

REP my friend

Hydrae 05-15-2015 09:20 AM

Thanks for the bump. I have seen this mentioned a couple of times but had not seen it before.

Well done, SNR. This would certainly help to even out the spoils of the draft from year to year.

I also liked Sully's point about resigning existing players having a lower cap hit. This would allow homegrown players to stay put and actually put more focus on good drafting.

Mr. Laz 05-15-2015 09:35 AM

So teams will now tank every game to make sure to keep their 3-year average as low as possible.

congrats ... zero wins is now the goal, not just enough to get the 1st pick.

RealSNR 05-15-2015 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11501038)
So teams will now tank every game to make sure to keep their 3-year average as low as possible.

congrats ... zero wins is now the goal, not just enough to get the 1st pick.

No, you ****ing moron.

Teams tank seasons RIGHT NOW. My plan makes it far more difficult for them to tank, because they have to do it for 3 seasons in a ****ing row.

Your only case against this plan is to say, "But the Browns can just tank every year year after year!", and THAT'S THE ****ING POINT. If the Browns are going to wallow and suck and be bad, then my draft system gives them an extra boost out of that mired shithole they're in. Yes, they can just tank the next season, and their high loss average from previous seasons will still let them stay near the top, but guess what? THAT'S WHAT THEY CAN ****ING DO NOW. Right now the Browns can tank a season and get a high draft pick. What would they do under my system? TANK A SEASON AND GET A HIGH DRAFT PICK. OH THE ****ING HUMANITY.

You're a ****ing idiot. My idea is brilliant. Go the **** away. You're getting stupid germs on my glorious thread.

In58men 05-15-2015 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11501056)
No, you ****ing moron.

Teams tank seasons RIGHT NOW. My plan makes it far more difficult for them to tank, because they have to do it for 3 seasons in a ****ing row.

Your only case against this plan is to say, "But the Browns can just tank every year year after year!", and THAT'S THE ****ING POINT. If the Browns are going to wallow and suck and be bad, then my draft system gives them an extra boost out of that mired shithole they're in. Yes, they can just tank the next season, and their high loss average from previous seasons will still let them stay near the top, but guess what? THAT'S WHAT THEY CAN ****ING DO NOW. Right now the Browns can tank a season and get a high draft pick. What would they do under my system? TANK A SEASON AND GET A HIGH DRAFT PICK. OH THE ****ING HUMANITY.

You're a ****ing idiot. My idea is brilliant. Go the **** away. You're getting stupid germs on my glorious thread.


NSFW


King_Chief_Fan 05-15-2015 10:13 AM

Wow...all of this because you are butt hurt over Luck playing for the Colts

Mr. Laz 05-15-2015 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11501056)
No, you ****ing moron.

Teams tank seasons RIGHT NOW. My plan makes it far more difficult for them to tank, because they have to do it for 3 seasons in a ****ing row.

Your only case against this plan is to say, "But the Browns can just tank every year year after year!", and THAT'S THE ****ING POINT. If the Browns are going to wallow and suck and be bad, then my draft system gives them an extra boost out of that mired shithole they're in. Yes, they can just tank the next season, and their high loss average from previous seasons will still let them stay near the top, but guess what? THAT'S WHAT THEY CAN ****ING DO NOW. Right now the Browns can tank a season and get a high draft pick. What would they do under my system? TANK A SEASON AND GET A HIGH DRAFT PICK. OH THE ****ING HUMANITY.

You're a ****ing idiot. My idea is brilliant. Go the **** away. You're getting stupid germs on my glorious thread.

yes, you steaming pile of shit ... it would make it so hard for Cleveland,Jacksonville and oakland to keep tanking. :doh!:

The shitty teams would just makes sure and lose ALL their games to make sure their 3-year average stays shittier than the other shitty teams. It would just create super-tanking by the crappy teams.

The only thing your dumb ass plan does is keep a really good team from benefiting from a single bad year.

A much simpler and more effective fix:

flip-flip the draft order of the non-playoff teams.

playoff teams still pick #20-32 with the super bowl winner picking last

#1-19 would be reversed from the current order

The last team that didn't make the playoffs gets rewarded with the #1 pick

The team with the worse record picks #19.

Then teams would be fighting to win games late in the year. The teams that almost make the playoffs would get a high picks, helping them take the final and hardest step to the playoffs.

All these shitty teams aren't making good use of the highest picks now anyway. Stop rewarding them with picks they have no idea how to use.

Now that's a real fix.

you suck :thumb:

Skyy God 05-15-2015 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 10350622)
Rams would have had the opportunity to draft Luck. Would they have traded the pick like they did for RGIII?

Probably not. The Rams front office loves fatties.

TimBone 05-15-2015 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11501093)
yes, you steaming pile of shit ... it would make it so hard for Cleveland,Jacksonville and oakland to keep tanking. :doh!:

The shitty teams would just makes sure and lose ALL their games to make sure their 3-year average stays shittier than the other shitty teams. It would just create super-tanking by the crappy teams.

The only think your dumb ass plan does is keep a really good team from benefiting from a single bad year.

A much simpler and more effective fix:

flip-flip the draft order of the non-playoff teams.

playoff teams still pick #20-32 with the super bowl winner picking last

#1-19 would be reversed from the current order

The last team that didn't make the playoffs gets rewarded with the #1 pick

The team with the worse record picks #19.

Then teams would be fighting to win games late in the year. The teams that almost make the playoffs would get a high picks, helping them take the final and hardest step to the playoffs.

All these shitty teams aren't making good use of the highest picks now anyway. Stop rewarding them with picks they have no idea how to use.

Now that's a real fix.

you suck :thumb:

It's just as much of an awful idea in this thread as it was in the other thread.

morphius 05-15-2015 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 10350646)
Weighted average would be better than combined average. If they sucked ass 3 years ago, it shouldn't count for more than the current year. I'd propose:

2013 = 2x
2012 = 1x
2011 = .5x

Could we also throw in some weight for each consecutive year a team doesn't win a playoff game :D

kcfanXIII 05-15-2015 10:41 AM

I like the idea of flip flopping the worst five records. That way, the shitty teams still get good picks, but it eliminates the incentive to tank for the worst record/top pick. Just my thoughts on it.

RealSNR 05-15-2015 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11501093)

The only thing your dumb ass plan does is keep a really good team from benefiting from a single bad year.

That is THE WORST ****ING PROBLEM WITH THE DRAFT AS IT IS YOU MOTHER****ING IDIOT

What's your obsession with making sure Cleveland and Jacksonville get ****ed out of high draft picks that they deserve? They're shitty teams. The truly WORST shitty teams. No Houston or Kansas City is going to outsuck them. No team is going to say, "Gosh darn it I wish we could have the top draft pick every now and then. Let's start sucking, but not just for one year. Let's do it for at least 3 consecutive years! That'll show those shitty teams!"

Your reasons for why my plan won't work have been shown to be full of shit. In fact, the only thing more full of shit is YOUR proposal. That's the worst ****ing idea I've ever heard. Want to make sure Cleveland and Jacksonville are never ever good ever again? Implement your plan. That's not the point of the NFL draft. What you're saying is that the NFL draft is some magical thing that teams suckle off of and pre-determine their fates. Newsflash: They don't. There's only one position that can make teams do that, and that's if there's a top QB available in that year. Under my system, teams are PREVENTED from tanking to get that player.

Under your system, the teams that need that QB will never get one, and they'll be mired in suck for a lot longer than if they just had the opportunity to draft the right guy.


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