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siberian khatru 01-07-2014 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Meatloaf (Post 10352938)
Welcome aboard Why Not. I too enjoy the repartee in Chiefs Planet. Of course, one must be prepared to be called out for just about anything. I'll start by suggesting that I back into an Aids tree whilst munching on a poison-infested donut.

ANTI-FREEZE soaked donut, you stupid ****ing cockswallower.

Meatloaf 01-07-2014 11:50 AM

My bad.

siberian khatru 01-07-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Meatloaf (Post 10353216)
My bad.

You'll learn. :D

ShortRoundChief 01-07-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 10353211)
Exactly my point. We dont have a good kicker. We cant even trust him from 41 out, much less from 60. We need a kicker, that if push cme to shove, we could at least consider trying a long ass FG

Succop ain't Elliot bad. He's somewhat reliable, kicker's miss. Heck, he didn't miss one all day.

The Franchise 01-07-2014 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 10353211)
Exactly my point. We dont have a good kicker. We cant even trust him from 41 out, much less from 60. We need a kicker, that if push cme to shove, we could at least consider trying a long ass FG

There aren't a lot of kickers that you can trust from 60 yards out.

Titty Meat 01-07-2014 12:25 PM

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Rain Man 01-07-2014 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10353081)
I would have gone for the TD on the 4th and 1 that we had instead of kicking that FG.

In the dark prison of our despair, that decision is a really big aggressive guy in the shower.

Why Not? 01-07-2014 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10353233)
There aren't a lot of kickers that you can trust from 60 yards out.

I think her point for the most part is that there are many K's you would at least say "F it, let's try a long kick". With Succop it's not even considered

Carlota69 01-07-2014 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 10353313)
I think her point for the most part is that there are many K's you would at least say "F it, let's try a long kick". With Succop it's not even considered

Exactly!! Thank you.

lcarus 01-07-2014 01:00 PM

With Succop we'd be lucky as hell if he could connect from 53/54. 60? Almost impossible.

Amnorix 01-07-2014 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 10352681)
I wondered the same. Sure it was a low percentage kick but there was nothing to lose by trying it.


Well, Alabama Auburn proved that isn't quite true. If you really don't think he has the leg for it, then it's a real risk.

The field goal protection team is basically two specialists in the holder and kicker, a bunch of fatties to block, and not much else. It's not exactly the guys you'd want on the field to defend a kick return, which is sort of what you'd be dealing with...

Amnorix 01-07-2014 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10353233)
There aren't a lot of kickers that you can trust from 60 yards out.


You don't need to trust him. You need to think "the odds of a kick from 60 are better than the odds of converting 4th and 11".

But the time left on the clock is also important, as others have pointed out. Leaving the Colts with 2 minutes there isn't likely to end well...

Amnorix 01-07-2014 01:18 PM

All that said, you guys might look for a really good kicker in the 4th or 5th round of the draft maybe. Guys like that are a very nice bonus for a team that is on the rise. They can affect field position on kickoffs and get the 3 when you need the damn 3.

McBeard 01-07-2014 01:39 PM

Succop has been pretty solid over the years. I think you gotta stay with a kicker through the tough times. Blair Walsh was terrible at Georgia in his senior year and look at him now. Succop really only had one bad one all year. I'd bring in some competition but that's about it. You aren't going to find much better.

ClevelandBronco 01-07-2014 02:20 PM

So if you had one more chance
 
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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 10352681)
I wondered the same. Sure it was a low percentage kick but there was nothing to lose by trying it.

I wondered about the reason for not attempting the FG before halftime as well. Perhaps it had something to do with wanting to preserve whatever fragile confidence Succop had reacquired after the problems he had the week before.


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