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Eleazar 01-11-2014 03:33 PM
Letting Flowers go is the obvious choice. I don't think we'd see much or any decline in our secondary if we could sign an average veteran free agent corner or a draftee with some upside.

Rasputin 01-11-2014 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 10361523)
You don't trade away a player like him. He accounted for over 30% of our offensive yards this season.


Well you can trade away a player like that if you can get a deal like the Cowboys got for the Hershal Walker trade. Yep JC should cost more than just a first round pick but who would bite?

Eleazar 01-11-2014 03:34 PM
Charles is one of the few running backs in the league that you can't easily replace, so you don't trade him.

ClevelandBronco 01-11-2014 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 10361542)
He isn't selfish like that. he won't put himself ahead of the team like that.
In the NFL, that would make him a fool.

notorious 01-11-2014 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10361543)
. I don't think we'd see much or any decline in our secondary if we could sign an average veteran free agent corner or a draftee with some upside.
We wouldn't see a decline in our secondary if we lined up 11 D linemen.

That's how bad it is now.

Buehler445 01-11-2014 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10361543)
Letting Flowers go is the obvious choice. I don't think we'd see much or any decline in our secondary if we could sign an average veteran free agent corner or a draftee with some upside.
Problem is we need to replace ****a too. Picking up 2 solid CBs 2 years in a row is TOUGH.

Buehler445 01-11-2014 03:42 PM
RE: JC. I don't know. I hope he doesn't. I think it is a good possibility, but I doubt he wants Chris Johnson money, and I doubt the Chiefs would be willing to part with Chris Johnson money.

BigRedChief 01-11-2014 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 10361584)
RE: JC. I don't know. I hope he doesn't. I think it is a good possibility, but I doubt he wants Chris Johnson money, and I doubt the Chiefs would be willing to part with Chris Johnson money.
No way the Chiefs will give Charles Chris Johnson money. If his agent wants that type of contract, it could get nasty.

GloryDayz 01-11-2014 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10361177)
No, you don't give him 5 years of top 5 RB money with a signing bonus. Redo the contract, increase it by two years to 2016. Just increase the money for the next 3 years. Give him another $10 million signing bonus.
This would be doable IMO.

Dunerdr 01-11-2014 03:57 PM
How bout keep shit the same and just throw a monstrosity of a signing bonus in for "restructuring"/ being 30% of our offense.

RealSNR 01-11-2014 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10361537)
/Chris Johnson


I would trade Jamaal in a heartbeat for a #1 WR or a pass rusher.


Easier said than done.
That's pretty stupid.

Jamaal's at the top of the league as a RB and has been for several seasons. If it weren't for Adrian Peterson, people would be talking about Charles as the freak-of-nature who showed absolutely zero lingering effects from his injury in 2011.

And with Andy Reid using him in multiple ways, his career has probably been extended by a significant amount.

Unless you're going to give me a WR or pass rusher who absolutely dominates the position like Charles does in his, **** that trade so hard in the ass.

notorious 01-11-2014 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10361655)
That's pretty stupid.

Jamaal's at the top of the league as a RB and has been for several seasons. If it weren't for Adrian Peterson, people would be talking about Charles as the freak-of-nature who showed absolutely zero lingering effects from his injury in 2011.

And with Andy Reid using him in multiple ways, his career has probably been extended by a significant amount.

Unless you're going to give me a WR or pass rusher who absolutely dominates the position like Charles does in his, **** that trade so hard in the ass.
RB's win playoff games, right?

tk13 01-11-2014 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10361660)
RB's win playoff games, right?
Charles is one of the few that could.

Either way he is a great fit in Reid's offense considering he likes to get his RBs 60 or 70 catches a year.

chiefzilla1501 01-11-2014 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10361660)
RB's win playoff games, right?
Building a team around a great running game, a great defense, and a very good (even if not elite) QB is a great model to follow.

Ask Eli Manning, Flacco, and Big Ben how important that running game is.

Easy 6 01-11-2014 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10361660)
RB's win playoff games, right?
If JC plays Indy, we're playing the Pats today.


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