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Jakemall 03-07-2014 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10471888)
I'd go with TE Jace Amaro, Texas Tech. A good TE in this offense would provide immediate positive results. I think you would see the results quicker going with TE than WR. The guy I want is Ebron from NC, but no way he'll be there when the Chiefs pick. He reminds me of a young Tony Gates - virtually uncoverable.

I understand the thought, but I'm not sure we need a TE..we got one last season, he's just been hurt.

htismaqe 03-07-2014 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 10471891)
I understand the thought, but I'm not sure we need a TE..we got one last season, he's just been hurt.

We got another Fasano last year. Kelce is primarily a blocking TE. He's not a dynamic pass catcher at all...

RunKC 03-07-2014 12:35 PM

Dee Ford or stephon tuitt. The moment the pass rush disappeared was the moment this team fell apart.
We can get a quality WR in rd 3

RunKC 03-07-2014 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10471925)
We got another Fasano last year. Kelce is primarily a blocking TE. He's not a dynamic pass catcher at all...

This is so incredibly wrong.

htismaqe 03-07-2014 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10471937)
This is so incredibly wrong.

Prove it.

saphojunkie 03-07-2014 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10471948)
Prove it.

Actually, you made the original statement. The onus is on you to substantiate your statement, as the de facto position is incredulity.

You have no authoritarian, infallible credentials where what you say is Gospel unless empirically proven otherwise by detractors.

In other words...

YOU prove it.

htismaqe 03-07-2014 12:49 PM

Here let me help you, since I watched him play quite a few times his senior year. Here's what you'll generally find in his scouting reports:

"primarily a blocker, dominates at run blocking"
"ideal size and catch radius but unproven because he only really produced one season"
"not a superb or explosive athlete"

Can he be a good TE? Sure. Is it a high probability? Nope. Better chance he's a 20-catch a year journeyman that ends up being primarily a blocking TE.

htismaqe 03-07-2014 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10471957)
Actually, you made the original statement. The onus is on you to substantiate your statement, as the de facto position is incredulity.

You have no authoritarian, infallible credentials where what you say is Gospel unless empirically proven otherwise by detractors.

In other words...

YOU prove it.

Just did, chief.

htismaqe 03-07-2014 12:51 PM

Travis Kelce is the classic case of "whoa, never heard of him but the Chiefs drafted him so he's gonna be good".

Titty Meat 03-07-2014 12:52 PM

Chiefs are letting their 2 best linemen go. Think how absurd that is. This team is drafting Martin folks.

BossChief 03-07-2014 12:53 PM

Kelce had micro fracture surgery on his knee.

Regardless of his perceived upside if he recovers, it would be somewhat irresponsible for the team to go into next season without a difference maker at such a crucial position.

Having a guy like Amaro running routes and taking attention away from Jamaal and Bowe would really help this offense and even more so if Kelce does return healthy...that would give us the ability to cut Fasano the following year.

Jace Amaro is gonna be a star in this league.

htismaqe 03-07-2014 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10471981)
Kelce had micro fracture surgery on his knee.

Regardless of his perceived upside if he recovers, it would be somewhat irresponsible for the team to go into next season without a difference maker at such a crucial position.

Having a guy like Amaro running routes and taking attention away from Jamaal and Bowe would really help this offense and even more so if Kelce does return healthy...that would give us the ability to cut Fasano the following year.

Jace Amaro is gonna be a star in this league.

Because he's a WR in a TE's body. Something Kelce will never be.

Titty Meat 03-07-2014 01:00 PM

Kelce had microfracture? Yeah he's done find another tight end.

htismaqe 03-07-2014 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10471999)
Kelce had microfracture? Yeah he's done find another tight end.

Done? Nah, I don't think so.

But can we absolutely count on him to lock down the position? No. IMO, we couldn't do that BEFORE he got hurt.

BossChief 03-07-2014 01:03 PM

I disagree on Kelces receiving skills.

I think he has a big time upside after watching him in camp ...and I was not a fan of the pick. The guy has a chance to be a damn good tight end if he can overcome this injury both physically and mentally. I don't think he can be Gronkowski good, but I think he could be a guy that's better than guys like Heath Miller (who is pretty good in his own right)

The guy showed the ability to beat coverage on DJ (one of the best coverage backers in the game) quite a bit while I was there and caught everything thrown to him, including some really nice catches. I think his drops in preseason were nothing but jitters.

My concern with him is his trust in his knee that it will hold up to all the shots it's gonna take. Micro fractures play a mental game with the people that get them because players know how problematic they can be if they don't heal perfectly.

This offense with a healthy and confident Kelce going along with a guy like Amaro would be extremely hard to stop. The safeties would need to stay in coverage and under those circumstances, Jamaal Charles could average close to 7 YPC if the line can open some holes.

Oh, and Bowe would rape.


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